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Old 11-10-2009, 09:56 AM
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Screw that!! Tell him/her to come over here!!!
Seriously, we're going to get better answers on this particular software application on the publisher's forum that's monitored by a staff person.

There is a thread on FAQs and another on known issues.

We can still use THT to report that we updated our GSD22 and the dog ran away, etc.
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Seriously, I wonder if there is any connection to "Birdman" on here, and "Machria" on there???

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Seriously, I wonder if there is any connection to "Birdman" on here, and "Machria" on there???

Don't try to confuse people. You're supposed to use the same name on all the forums. Unless you get kicked off one and have to create a new account with a different name.
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Default HP sourced .gbd file not recognised on 4012

Can't say I'm having fun with HP yet as I'm having a few more problems, now I can't import a .gdb file exported from Homeport as my 4012 plotter apparently doesn't see the file.

Got a new 2gig SD card, placed in the 4012, turned on 4012 to format, took card to PC, exported folder from My Collection, check that folder is on SD card........yes, I can see 2 files on the card, one is my waypoints folder in .gdb format.

Next take card to 4012 go to Home>Information>Used data>Data Transfer>Card>Replace from card...........expect to see the .gdb file available for selection......nothing on the screen to select!

Tested SD card by importing folder into Homeport on my home notebook and no problems there, so the card must be Ok.
Tested reader on 4012 by inserting G2 Vision card, maps appear OK so reader must be working.

Try again same result, can anyone see a problem with what I've done or have any idea what's happening here.

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Old 11-24-2009, 08:39 PM
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Default Tony ........

You do not use the export menu to transfer date from HP to your SD for further upload into you unit.... you use the export menu to pass files to another Garmin software app MS.

To transfer files to your sd card for further transfer to your unit you use the send to functionality.

Here's the instructions pulled right from the Help Menu in HP.

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BWP,

Ok, understand what you're saying but using the Edit>send to doesn't give me the SD device (my E drive) location as a destination option, only lists folders in HP Library as a destination.

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There is something going on between your reader and the SD Card. Transfer data to your SD card from your unit ..... then place it in your reader. HP should recognize it as your unit if not there is something going on with your computer not HP.

This is what you should see on the HP display page when your SD card is inserted in your reader.

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Old 11-25-2009, 12:02 PM
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Hi Tom!

Is there a garmin site or blog that we can make suggestions on? I would like to see an implementation of the autoroute feature in homeport.
Even more desireable would be autorouting given a wind forecast and based on a sailboat's typical tacking angle. Nothing really fancy with polars and data acquisition, just a ballpark kind of thing.
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I'm staying with MS. Does what I need to do.

If HP would read and manage maps from the G2 in my 540 then I might consider giving Garmin some of my $$ for the new stuff.

Sorry, but I see no benefit of HP over MS.

Already paid for all of my unlocks for the latest Bluecharts and can share maps and waypoints without issues amongst my three unlocked Garmin units without an issue.

Sorry Garmin!

Through me some candy, like sharing maps and waypoints with my one Ray unit and I'll quickly give you some of my bigger $$$ Garmin.

I think I see what Garmin is doing here. Trying to take command of their new mapbase since TOMTOM bought out their source for their principal map data a few years back. Using paid beta testers for their new software that will eventually not support older mapbases created by their previous supplier that they no longer control.

Interesting, the HP wipes out MS!

Thank you, but thank you not. I'll wait for the real HP at probably $150.00 when G2 or it's survivor platform is fully supported and all my previous unlocks are still valid and working with the latest Mapbase.

Was wandering what the heck Garmin was going to do after they lost their mapping alliance.

Now I think I know that they just want everyone to be a paid beta tester to make sure HP works with all previous mapbases and hardware. Then comes the real new functions in HP release along with the newest Mapbase.

IMHO!!!!!!!
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Default I see your point, however ......

If you were running MS to start with and it did what you wanted it to do then why would you switch to start with?

The target audience for HP wasn't previous MS users it's the users who don't have MS to start with. There has been a need for a new marine planning software for over a year. The biggest bitch from current users who purchased MS was the need additional expense of BlueCharts.

One of the best featurers in my opinion is the ability to download the G2 charts from your chartplotter. In regards to user manipulated charts iunless the changes are sanctioned (Notice to Mariners) Garmin or any other vendor would be just asking to be sued in these days and times.

I'm running both MS/HP because I have clients that are using both. I use MS to handle the data in my 2206/545 and I've also imported my 545 data into HP not an issue.

For general information, HP was developed from an existing Garmin planning application called BaseCamp.

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There is something going on between your reader and the SD Card. Transfer data to your SD card from your unit ..... then place it in your reader. HP should recognize it as your unit if not there is something going on with your computer not HP.

This is what you should see on the HP display page when your SD card is inserted in your reader.

BWP,

That's the display I got as well, mine understandably shows the GPSmap4012 in the Devices directory.
As I understand it I should be able to Edit > Send to or drag (copy) a folder to that icon which I take it copies the data to the SD card in a format the the 4012 can read and download, correct?

Many thanks for taking the time, Tony
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One thing I don't understand is, why didn't Garmin just add the G2 Vision abilty to MS? Instead of developing a new pgm...

Anywhoozle...
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TOMTOM bought out their source for their principal map data a few years back.
Birdie, apparently they lost the ability to acquire new cartography updates in a format that MS could utilize?

Tom-Tom isn't going to let Garmin have access to something like that if in fact they now own it. Most purchase contracts don't guarantee future IP, only access to the existing product. That product got very old and Garmin couldn't sell updates any longer. For whatever reason, they haven't shipped a map update to MS in some time, so maybe there is truth to it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the format MS needs is proprietary to Tom-Tom right now.

They had no choice but to go a different route.

It's the games companies play with competitors when they acquire other companies IP.
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hmmmm.... makes sense. Well, I hope they are busy fixing HP and adding some features to make it at least equivelent to MS in abilty.
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I am one of the few that has huge performance issues with HP. Every mouse click on the interface, no matter what I try to do, is met with a delay from 10 seconds to 60 seconds. It is not practical to try to create a route...it would take way too much time. Of course MS and also Nobeltec Navigator have no such delays.

This problem with HP exists on the two different PCs. The only software on one, a late model Dell laptop that exceeds system requirements, is Microsoft Office 2007 and Nortons Internet Security Suite. Do any of you who have no HP performance issues have these software apps loaded on the same machine? I am trying to narrow down the problem.

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I was messing around with HP, despite huge performance issues, and tried to create three separate routes, each with three waypoints, all originating from the same buoy in my local harbor. Two of the routes "reused" the existing buoy, but the third created a duplicate buoy with a similar name. I tried to zoom in to the max, which takes forever, and mouse over the exact same point, but it still created a duplicate waypoint. So, the result is the same waypoint has two different names. If I create a library with 30 routes, I can imagine a large number of duplicate names for the same buoy, which would be an annoyance. Anyone else have this issue?

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Greetings!

I am one of the few that has huge performance issues with HP. Every mouse click on the interface, no matter what I try to do, is met with a delay from 10 seconds to 60 seconds. It is not practical to try to create a route...it would take way too much time. Of course MS and also Nobeltec Navigator have no such delays.

This problem with HP exists on the two different PCs. The only software on one, a late model Dell laptop that exceeds system requirements, is Microsoft Office 2007 and Nortons Internet Security Suite. Do any of you who have no HP performance issues have these software apps loaded on the same machine? I am trying to narrow down the problem.

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There is a HomePort support forum on the Garmin website:

https://forums.garmin.com/forumdisplay.php?f=214

You can join and ask questions there. The forum is moderated by the software developers.

I have HomePort installed on two PCs, both running Norton and Office. No performance problems.
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I was messing around with HP, despite huge performance issues, and tried to create three separate routes, each with three waypoints, all originating from the same buoy in my local harbor. Two of the routes "reused" the existing buoy, but the third created a duplicate buoy with a similar name. I tried to zoom in to the max, which takes forever, and mouse over the exact same point, but it still created a duplicate waypoint. So, the result is the same waypoint has two different names. If I create a library with 30 routes, I can imagine a large number of duplicate names for the same buoy, which would be an annoyance. Anyone else have this issue?

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I think you meant "same Waypoint, not "same Bouy", right?

Edit the route with the duplicated waypoint, remove the duplicated waypoint in the waypoint list box on the bottom right of the display, then insert a new point into the route and select the original waypoint (not the duplcated one which should no longer exist). Done.
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