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Very Nice Shots Jaydee. On the overlay shot, bottom right; is the green underwater marine growth, brush etc? It looks like there are fish on the bottom in there but they are hard to make out in the scan. Do you have a shot that clearly shows fish in the Structure Scan Image? Possibly some off to the left of the rock Pile?
Very Nice Shots Jaydee. On the overlay shot, bottom right; is the green underwater marine growth, brush etc? It looks like there are fish on the bottom in there but they are hard to make out in the scan. Do you have a shot that clearly shows fish in the Structure Scan Image? Possibly some off to the left of the rock Pile?
To make sure we're on the same page, the lower right color shot wasn't an overlay but 2-D SONAR with the HST-WSBL transducer. With the particular color palette I was running at the time (#13) the green represents the hard, craggy bottom with strong return that's shown much more clearly with Structure Scan, top left and right. Considering the bluff has more facets than a diamond, I suppose the 2-D pings were bouncing in every direction, plus I had the sensitivity cranked up a little too high. I didn't record but only took a screen shot of this area. There were a couple fish around but at the time I was more interested in capturing structure shots.
Not exactly what you asked for but here are a few Striped Bass I captured this past Saturday, same reservoir the bridge shot was taken from. I should have switched to 800 kHz for more detail at this depth but was so excited to see the fish I was lucky to remember taking a screen shot! No I didn't catch a one of these. They were gone in a flash.
BTW, TCM is correct. I am not employed by Lowrance or Navico. These shots are directly from my HDS 10 to a SD card to PC and uploaded. No enhancement or editing.
Jaydee; thanks for clarifying. Great shot! Exactly what I was looking for. Have you had any issues with waves and speed? About where do you loose the ability to paint a good image. I suspect it is also depth dependent. I got a few more offshore charters before I get the Canyon Draggin' back into the Bay for Striped Bass fishing. I am hoping to have the SS Ducer soon.
Fishing inland reservoirs, waves aren't much of an issue. However, the Striper shot I previously posted was taken during pretty stiff wind w/ "mini"-white caps.
wow those are some grat pics. to bad 1 out of 3 units will be defective & the consumer will get stuck for a grand or two. never own anouther lowrance no matter how cool the stuff is they put out. stick me once shame on you stick me twice shame on me.
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wow those are some great pics. to bad 1 out of 3 units will be defective & the consumer will get stuck for a grand or two. never own anouther lowrance no matter how cool the stuff is they put out. stick me once shame on you stick me twice shame on me.
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Wow, a 33% defective rate?
I don't know of anyone with rates like that, except Congress.
Care to share your source?
those stats came from a large chain supplier. However the horror stories of lack of customer service & the number of units returned multiple times are all over the net. I know every body has cs problems thats expected. I can see disgruntled customers but the Lowrance list unfortunately is miles of info on the net. I have to say the net is great for info taken with a grain of salt till the numbers become over welling. then you just have to read the lines. Maybe if they spent less on advertising & more on the product & warranty they would have a better reputation even the pros will let you now how unreliable the units are when there not working. I'm not going to give names however I have some ska contacts who told me not to buy 1 but I didn't listen with all the features seemed like a dream but turned into a nightmare theres nothing more irritating & costly then electronics that work intermittently.
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Anyway I don't care, I will buy StructurScan. The Lowrance units over here are sold with 5 years warranty as required by law. And by some strange reason the Lowrance units of the people I know don't seem to fail.
Anyway I don't care, I will buy StructurScan. The Lowrance units over here are sold with 5 years warranty as required by law. And by some strange reason the Lowrance units of the people I know don't seem to fail.
If they have a 5 year warranty on your side of the pond id say go for it. here is a 1 year with 1 fix or replacement after your 1st fix your on your own even if that unit fails it's all you. I wish it was requered here to back your product. Is that on all products?
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I'm sure there's a need for it. Although I don't really understand most of those images, especially the sideways ones. I guess there is a learning curve to figure out what you looking at.
I said this in an earlier post, and I'll repeat it. Lowrance always seems to come out with some cool features that everybody else copies later on, and some features nobody seems to do for some reason. First to offer a color display, first to record, first to save a screen-shot, now first with sidescan for rec's,.... As an example of what nobody else does, the recording option. Why the heck they don't ALL have a record option, you can play back at home in your planning software.... ?? Garmin lets us save a screen shot, but it's like a top secret 007 method to do it, and it's not even in any manuals, and you need a wireless mouse to do it. That's just dumb!!
The problem with Lowrance is, they come up with the idea, and then sell it as junk. The 30% failure rate stated above probably is wrong as noted, it might be worse!! Every time I demo one, it seems to crash before I hit a couple key strokes. 8 out of 10 posts on sites like this are: "My Lowrance doesn't work" or "No Cust support at Lowrance", ....
If hey would just make, a ROCK solid, waterproof product that had no major bugs in it, and then actually supported that product, they'd probably do very well. But for some reason, it seems like they do a great R&D, and then shoot themselves in the foot with cheap manufacturing and support.
Just my useless opinion on them.
PS- JD, Questions:
1. Ever used it in SALT water?
2. You sure those are striped bass, in the fresh water reservoir? I assume it's fresh water anyway.
"those stats came from a large chain supplier. However the horror stories of lack of customer service & the number of units returned multiple times are all over the net"
What product line?
First of all, any company with a 33% failure rate would be out of business and it would be all over the various Manufacturing and trade journals. Secondly these forums are just a small sampling of what the facts truly are. A lot of rumors and mis-information spreads very quickly and unsatisfied customers complain (rightfully so) more than satisfied customers. I have never owned nor operated any Lowrance products and I would never base my buying decision on the same critics going from forum to forum complaining about the same thing. I am sure Lowrance has had some product launch miscues as well as the other OEMs and if you go thru the archives you will see what I am talking about. It's amazing when people are asked to be more specific about what they are complaining about its " I heard it from a Buddy", "I heard it from a reliable source" or even the "I saw it on the Internet" and have never even owned the product. "Hear say" does not hold up in court nor should it be spread around the Internet. If you are going to "trash" a product, you should be prepared to prove it with facts and evidence. I am not saying its not OK to list your grievances about a product, just leave out the descriptive adjectives and I think you will find people will be more inclined to help you and be on your side. Lowrance must be gaining some ground in their customer service department as the "rumblings" on this site as well as others has diminished to an apparent unhappy few.
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If they have a 5 year warranty on your side of the pond id say go for it. here is a 1 year with 1 fix or replacement after your 1st fix your on your own even if that unit fails it's all you. I wish it was requered here to back your product. Is that on all products?
The HDS warranty is 2 years, and if you pay with an Amex card, it is 3 years. The failure rate is nowhere near 33%. Ask Jim at BoeElectronics, who has sold many many many of these units, how many have failed. I believe he has seen a failure rate of something like ZERO % so far. Where do you come up with this stuff? Some part time sales clerk working in West Marine said that?
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If they have a 5 year warranty on your side of the pond id say go for it. here is a 1 year with 1 fix or replacement after your 1st fix your on your own even if that unit fails it's all you. I wish it was requered here to back your product. Is that on all products?
All products which are expected to last more than two years have 5 years warranty. Problems caused by normal wear and tear are excluded from the warranty All electronics are normally 100% covered.
The Konsgberg Group which holds 5% of the shares in Navico is the REAL Simrad. They are the previous owner of Simrad Yachting and still use the Simrad brand for their professional fish finders and sonars.
Just waiting for the ducer to show up! I had a run to the deep for Tiles Saturday, but the weather $ucks. I am still amazed at how good the BB ducer does in 1000 feet of water at 200 kHz.
PS- JD, Questions:
1. Ever used it in SALT water?
2. You sure those are striped bass, in the fresh water reservoir? I assume it's fresh water anyway.
1. No, I haven't used it in salt.
2. Although I didn't catch one out of that bunch, the school formation, location, depth, etc. Is the way they usually appear on screen. Been looking for them, at them and catching them for close to 30 years.
Yes, fresh water.
Sometimes I run over a really good school. Took this with a "Legacy" Lowrance 104-C a couple years ago.
The HDS warranty is 2 years, and if you pay with an Amex card, it is 3 years. The failure rate is nowhere near 33%. Ask Jim at BoeElectronics, who has sold many many many of these units, how many have failed. I believe he has seen a failure rate of something like ZERO % so far. Where do you come up with this stuff? Some part time sales clerk working in West Marine said that?
close to zero I guess you cant read the posts all over the net? sorry charlie them figures are definatly made up.
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1. No, I haven't used it in salt.
2. Although I didn't catch one out of that bunch, the school formation, location, depth, etc. Is the way they usually appear on screen. Been looking for them, at them and catching them for close to 30 years.
Yes, fresh water.
Sometimes I run over a really good school. Took this with a "Legacy" Lowrance 104-C a couple years ago.
This is a land locked striper caught at Smith Mountain Lake VA. We now use our own boats but these pics were taken on Capt. Burts boat. We chartered him the first year to learn the ropes. Do you know him?? We caught lots of fish trolling the rock ledges to the right of the dam. Great lake!!
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