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Lowrance introduced StructureScan to European sports fishing journalists in Helsinki in Septemeber. The link below is showing the promo material Lowrance has made from this event.
Hi there,
I am just about to sign up on an HDS-10 and SS but before I do, I was just wondering if
1.Anyone had any screen shots of the SS used in salt water, preferably looking for bait schools or game fish?
2. What sort of depth are you getting in salt water for SS?
TIA
T
I've not used it in salt but here's a screen capture of Striped Bass in a freshwater reservoir I fish in Virginia. BTW, The vertical spiking/interference on the conventional SONAR screen is the result of another unit pinging on a nearby vessel.
If memory doesn't fail, there are 7-8. Anywhere from a "night vision" green color to black and white. Not the most attractive palette, but the brown/amber seems to show detail better and is easier on my eyes.
I have a question were on the hull would you mount it IE I have read many post about the HB unit having problems with one side or the other being blocked by the motor or trim tabs.I notice on the video he has it right under his motor between the jack plate. I only have a HDS 5 right now wonder how it will look on a small screen I plan on getting a 7 but would love an HDS 8 if I was made of money.
I have a bay boat w/25" transom. My conventional transducer is mounted starboard transom and the SS transducer is mounted port transom. In my particular situation I start noticing a little interference from prop wash on the right side scan display if I get much above 5-6 MPH. It's not bad but noticeable.
I have a HDS 10 at the console and a 7 on the bow. The 7 does a good job displaying a 2-way split screen. A 5" split display? I suppose a lot depends upon how good your eyes are.
1. What the hell is that in the first picture? Looks like an undwater bridge? OR, is that in a fishtank*?
It is a very steep drop off / under water cliff.
* that's just being silly
2. Is this using a regular type transducer, OR, is it using an underwater type dragged sidescan type ducer?
It is the LSS-1 455/800kHz transducer
3. Why are there shadow's in the images? If you look at fishton's posted images, there are shadows on the sides of the "mountains". Is that caused from the regular transducer because it is simply pointing down like a regular ducer?
See cones in image above .........
4. Will these freqs see fish as well, or just structure?
Both ............
I can't resist, did that bus just let the fish off at school?!
I kill myself!!
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I have a bay boat w/25" transom. My conventional transducer is mounted starboard transom and the SS transducer is mounted port transom. In my particular situation I start noticing a little interference from prop wash on the right side scan display if I get much above 5-6 MPH. It's not bad but noticeable.
I have a HDS 10 at the console and a 7 on the bow. The 7 does a good job displaying a 2-way split screen. A 5" split display? I suppose a lot depends upon how good your eyes are.
Any chance you can get me a measurement of the length of the transducer from the hull to the end of the bracket? I want to see if I will be able to mount that on my transom without it interfering with my engines. Also the width would be great as well. I will mock up a dummy ducer with cardboard and tape it to the boat so I can see if the engines will be able to turn to full lock without interference..
I have a bay boat w/25" transom. My conventional transducer is mounted starboard transom and the SS transducer is mounted port transom. In my particular situation I start noticing a little interference from prop wash on the right side scan display if I get much above 5-6 MPH. It's not bad but noticeable.
I have a HDS 10 at the console and a 7 on the bow. The 7 does a good job displaying a 2-way split screen. A 5" split display? I suppose a lot depends upon how good your eyes are.
Just remember to select "Flip Left/Right" if mounted with the cable in the front. (closest to transom). The default is 'Not' selected, so its something to keep an eye on.
Otherwise, everything on the right is going to be on your left and everything on your left will be on the right. Very confusing!
The left/right issue is still selectable in the set up but if you mount your SS transducer like mine is pictured with cable toward the transom you don't need to do anything, this is now the default orientation.
The left/right issue is still selectable in the set up but if you mount your SS transducer like mine is pictured with cable toward the transom you don't need to do anything, this is now the default orientation.
Thanks JayDee, I will check it out now with the new update. Mine was the opposite till now - keep you posted. (just double check that )
Fishton how did you get one of these units when all the places I go say not out until 11/20/09
Lowrance SA brought it in after their annual Navico conference held in Finland earlier this year. They offered it to me to do a few reviews on it for them.
Please do check it out. I'm certainly not above humility or correction. I wouldn't intentionally give incorrect info but I do make mistakes sometimes. That revision was actually made a while back in one of the beta releases.
I do have a question for some of you who are more technically oriented. I thought about posting this in the HB section but I'm sure it would end up like the proverbial Ford/Chevy debate and I'm not here to stir up a stink.
How can HB use the same side scan transducer which I think was also used in legacy units and get true down scan? According to illustrations and specifications, their transducer has two side scanning crystals that operate at either 455 or 800 kHz and a conventional down looking crystal that operates @ either 83 or 200 kHz. Used in combination they advertise 180 degrees of coverage.
Apparently HB and Lowrance agree that 455 and 800 kHz are the best frequencies for optimum range, coverage and screen display. Breaking it down, HB advertises 86 degrees of coverage to each side. You can see from their illustration that the peak power point (strongest impulse) is close to/at the center which is indicated by the heavier, thicker portion of the arc and weakens as it approaches either vertical or horizontal. Although weaker, still 86 degrees coverage. 86 and 86 = 172 degrees. In order to get down scan coverage, where do the (required) 8 degrees come from?
Think about this. The unit determines frequency, not the transducer. Transducers are designed to operate optimally at certain frequencies. If the side scan crystals/elements will be used to create down scan and complete the 180 degree arc of coverage, wouldn't they have to alter the operating frequency? A frequency which they weren't designed for? On the other hand, if a conventional 2-D transducer crystal could emulate down scan paralleling side scan performance, it would have been introduced long ago. Something is missing.
