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Old 05-12-2009, 05:12 PM
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What is the best Fix-Mount VHF Radio everyone is using?


I am running a QuestX Standard Horizon.. It seems to pick up for miles.. I get Radio traffic from good distance, but whenever I give back Radio Checks the person can never hear me.. Any ideas what the issue can be or is just a junk radio? I can hear the Radio check very very clear but they can never hear me.. Not putting off enough power? Ant matter?

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Icom radios are consistantly the highest rated VHF radios.

Make sure your radio is set to HIGH output (25w) when transmitting.
I believe many boaters do not bother to answer "radio check" calls.

A high quality, 8' antenna, like Digital, is equally important (if not more so) than the radio it'self.
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I never had an issue with my Icom fixed vhf. I do have an issue with Standard's floating handheld. Once you dunk them and they do float. But when you try to use them they will send a signal but you will not understand the response as the wet speaker sounds garbled until it dries up.

So much for floating handheld vhfs.
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check your antenna.....


just went thru the same thing,6 month old antenna was bad....
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Standard Horizon is definitely not junk.
I was fighting the same problem years ago with Icom's finest.
It was my inexperience at that time thinking I could connect the radio anywhere where there was a 12V connection. Wrong, the radio draws 5 to 7 AMP while transmitting, worked fine while receiving, but for transmitting the small wires had too much voltage drop.
Make sure your feed wires from the battery are heavy enough to have no more than 3% voltage drop for the length of the run at 7AMP.
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Recent mid-priced VHF review:

http://www.standardhorizon.com/PDF/F...%20Choice. pdf

I agree with ctoolman, check your antenna.
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The guys mentioning your antenna and antenna connections are giving excellent advice, and so is BajaFeeling. If your wires are too small, you definitely can have a restriction on your transmission power, while your receive will work fine.

Also, about radio checks. Try to find a buddy or a commercial place you do business with (gas dock, TowBoat U.S. or Seatow, if you have towing insurance, etc.) to set up a radio check so you don't have to depend on just anybody answering. Like marcortez said, many boaters just won't answer an unknown "radio check" call. Plus even if they do, unless you ask and they tell, you won't know how far away they are.
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Standard Horizon and Icom both are made by companies which make commercial grade communication gear and are high quality products. (Standard is Yaesu ham gear and Vertex commercial communication radios).

First be sure that you are on high power--next check the SWR of the antenna (get one of the guages). Check the power lead--be sure that the wire is proper guage, and that you are still getting 12.7 volts when transmitting--some radios can be sensative to voltage. Check the ground connections. Check the microphone. If you know an amateur radio operator who has a field strenth meter he can check the radiated power. Great idea to have your friends or commercial folks check your signal.

I have both Standard and Icom Radios.
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Maybe the guys you are calling have lousy receivers. Don't base your radio performance on someone else's lousy receiver.

To get a reliable check you need three stations. With three, you can usually figure out which radio had the real problem.
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GWSeafarer22,
The GX1500S (Quest-X) is supplied with a noise cancelling microphone. The microphone is designed to transmit the voice message with reduction of background noise, using Clear Voice Noise Reduction Technology. Please position your mouth closer to the microphone and make sure that you are not covering the mic element with your fingers. Position the Oval Slot label “MIC” within 1 inch (2.5 cm) from the mouth for optimum performance.


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The GX3000S (MATRIX) received Practical Sailor's "Best Choice" award in February 2009.

"The GX3000S easily tops the
Icom M422, our pick in the 2005
test of mid-priced VHFs; the M422
lacks a powerful hailer and Class D rating."
http://www.standardhorizon.com/PDF/F...t%20Choice.pdf

Solarfry,
After submersing the radio, please shake the water out of the speaker for clearer audio.
Please note that the garbled sound of the wet speaker is not unique to Standard Horizon handhelds.
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A high quality, 8' antenna, like Digital, is equally important (if not more so) than the radio it'self.

Can somebody please explain to me why Digital Antenna are "high quality" antennas and what makes them better than a cheap Shakespeare Centennial with an element inside that rattles ?

Is it because Digital embeds the element winding in the fiberglass rod and it doesn't rattle like a cheap, I mean inexpensive, Shakespeare Centennial ?




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Maybe the guys you are calling have lousy receivers. Don't base your radio performance on someone else's lousy receiver.

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The OP says " but whenever I give back Radio Checks the person can never hear me"
That would make it pretty clear he is not getting out.
So first thing comes to mind, has his setup ever worked before?
Is it set to high output 25 Watts
Next:Antenna connections, Power connection including ground connection and fuse socket. Is he still getting 12V while keying the mic.
Is the mic connection clean
If all this checks out good, the antenna could be broken or the radio could be bade, it can happen to the best radios.

The OP has not answered back; he probably has his problem fixed by now.
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once again,i had the same issue recently,i could hear the world,but no one could hear me....check the antenna...mine was bad...as some wise person told me Most vhf issues are antenna related....
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The OP says " but whenever I give back Radio Checks the person can never hear me"
That would make it pretty clear he is not getting out.

Either that or he might not have had his volume turned up to hear those responding to his radio check ?



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If you have access to a handheld vhf, have a freind drive to a hill 3-4 miles away with it and try communicating on say 68. Your own driveway radio check.
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And before the electron police begin, yes, we know that's illegal. And cemiii probably does too.
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Thanks Guys.. I will be checking the voltage drop this weelend..
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Can somebody please explain to me why Digital Antenna are "high quality" antennas and what makes them better than a cheap Shakespeare Centennial with an element inside that rattles ?

Is it because Digital embeds the element winding in the fiberglass rod and it doesn't rattle like a cheap, I mean inexpensive, Shakespeare Centennial ?




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PBR: This is probably going to cause quite a conflict, but the answer is, not much. The only real difference is the quality of the build, the quality of the finish, etc. A cheap VHF antenna will go just as far as the top of the line. After all, basically we are talking about a piece of coax cable inside of a fiberglass tube. Cheap antennas will start to fade or break easier, or even the wire inside may break and the antenna may stop working. But once again, I could make a perfectly usable VHF antenna with some pieces of wire that would transmit just as far as the finest antenna money could buy. It would just look like crap!
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Uh oh. Now you're asking for it. Digital antennas cure cancer, I'm told...
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