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Old 06-23-2009, 02:05 PM
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Only reason KVH came out with their M1 is that Intellian came out with their i1...... notice how KVH discontinued the M2 ..WHY? Intellian i1 dish size 11"....KVH M1 is 12.5" ...Intellian is still the smallest dish out there.....size will not go any smaller unless there is a major technology jump....will not happen for years...
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Only reason KVH came out with their M1 is that Intellian came out with their i1...... notice how KVH discontinued the M2 ..WHY? Intellian i1 dish size 11"....KVH M1 is 12.5" ...Intellian is still the smallest dish out there.....size will not go any smaller unless there is a major technology jump....will not happen for years...
That is EXACTLY what they said to me last year regarding the 18" dishes.

Can somebody sya 6"????
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That is EXACTLY what they said to me last year regarding the 18" dishes.

Can somebody sya 6"????
Birdman, are you trying to give subtle hints that you want a smaller dome
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Subtle? Whats that mean??

How about, get me a KILLER deal on the M1 I can't refuse, then you won't have to read about me biatchin about their size anymore!!!
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After weighing my options and comparing the KVH vs Intellian I decided to go Intellian. Then I had to decide between the new D4 or the existing i series. After looking at the size of the domes and cost of the newer technology I decided that for our 40 ft convertible the i3 was the right choice. Ordered today and the unit is being drop shipped from Intellian directly. Intellian had a new shipment of i3 units arrive today from Korea. The D4 is enroute crossing the Ocean now and should be making a big splash come mid July.

I have spoken to Intellian through this process on the phone 2 or 3 times and they seem like a great little company that knows what they are doing.

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A six inch dish would work just as well as am thirteen if the satellite power output was increased by a factor of just over four. Which do you think will happen?
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A six inch dish would work just as well as am thirteen if the satellite power output was increased by a factor of just over four. Which do you think will happen?
Both. The sats are only putting out something like 100 watts if I recall correctly. I don't remember the exact #, but it was suprisingly low from 20,000 miles away.

But, I'm sure some rocket scientist will figure out how to get a strong enough signal from the existing sat's, with a 6" dish. Trust me. Remember when the world was flat? When it was not posible to reach the moon? when it was not possible to go into space, glide back down to earth, then re-fuel the aircraft and fly back into space again? Remember when sputnic went up, and most said it was useless technology (what are you going to do with a "Satellite" in space??)?? LOL!!!

6 inches!! You herd it here first.
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I just ordered the Intellian i2 for Directv today and will be at my house tomorrow.
Does anyone know if this unit gets standard def and/or local programs? I know it gets HD programming.
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This is a ku band antenna so you will get about 7 channels of HD and the rest standard def. On a 26 inch Sharp HD LCD I can tell the difference but it is not much. I have an i3 and just spent 4 days on the boat with family. I can not tell you how good a decision it was to install and purchase. Great unit.
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This is a ku band antenna so you will get about 7 channels of HD and the rest standard def. On a 26 inch Sharp HD LCD I can tell the difference but it is not much. I have an i3 and just spent 4 days on the boat with family. I can not tell you how good a decision it was to install and purchase. Great unit.
Good info, thanks! Do you get local broadcasting?
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PSW. Does the Intellian have just one coax that goes from the controller to the dome like the KVH? Do the use a 12 volt controller like the KVH?
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Most Intellian antennas use one cable from the antenna, if you have one DirTV or Dish receiver. If you do multiple receivers, you use the second antenna cable and split it off with a multiswitch to the third+ receivers.
The new d-Series, the one that does the Ku and Ka for larger boat HD reception, can't be done with one cable at this time.
Like Birdman says, everything can be done. But like somebody said in a movie that I can't remember the name of, "The answer to 9 out of 10 questions is "money"."
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So does it just use 2 coax cables for the 2 different bands?
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If you have 1 receiver then you only need 1 RG-6 from the ACU to the Antenna. There is a 2nd port for boats with 2 receivers. I have 2 tv's but wired both to the 1 receiver. They just have to watch the same channel. The ku band ka band dish is not giong to get any smaller for a few years so if you are waiting on that you better find a comfy place to wait because it is going to be a while.

The M1 from KVH is the only unit that comes with a 12v direct tv receiver. The downside is if you have to do an updated of any kind you must pay kvh to come out and hook a computer into your unit. I like having my ACU as the brain of the operation and then communicating from there to the receiver. I also bought a HD receiver so I could use my existing hdmi cable and get atleast a few HD channels.

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PSW,
So let me get this straight, the differences between the KVH M1 and Intellian I3 are:

1. The M1 uses a 12v receiver, the I3 uses 120v so geni must be running (or inverter).

2. The M1 had one black box, receiver with built in "controller", the I3 has 2 black boxes.

3. The I3 can be software upgraded/updated by user, the M1 must be software upgraded/updated by a KVH service rep.

4. The I3 gets some HD channels, the M1 does not.


Is this correct? Missing anything?

I'm trying to figure out which to get....
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I have the i2 not the i3, and love it. MY answers to your questions are as follows:

1. You can buy either 12v or 110v Directv boxes.

2. I only have one black box for Directv (very small) you need two if you want DishTV.

3. Yes, by laptop.

4. Yes, I get 12 HD channels now.

We now calculate how long to the fishing grounds in episodes or innings and the video output for the Garmins on deck are gorgeous.
You can't beat the customer service by calling Darren (Intellian Guru) directly on his cellphone.
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I would go with the i1 Intellian. I like having a 12 volt Antenna control unit. 1 cable from the ACU to the Dome. Very Simple. I have been very pleased so far with the i3. I am sure you could just get a cable box that is 12 volt and be all DC as well. I am finishing an inverter install that will be used to run all outlets on the boat so for me the TV and cable box being AC is not a big deal.

I would literally pick up the phone and call Intellian and KVH and after that you will know who you want to call when on the water with an issue or Q. Both good companies and the market just got more competitive for KVH and we all benefit from that.
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So let me get this straight, the differences between the KVH M1 and Intellian I3 are:

1. The M1 uses a 12v receiver, the I3 uses 120v so geni must be running (or inverter).

2. The M1 had one black box, receiver with built in "controller", the I3 has 2 black boxes.

3. The I3 can be software upgraded/updated by user, the M1 must be software upgraded/updated by a KVH service rep.

4. The I3 gets some HD channels, the M1 does not.

Is this correct? Missing anything?

I'm trying to figure out which to get....
Never a problem with my M3st.
As you noted, it includes the DirecTV receiver. You don't have to buy one (or get from DirecTV) separately, and the KVH receiver operates from an RF remote- that's a big deal because you can mount it out of the way. I can change channels when viewing on the E series display from the helm...

Software updates? Never heard of it. Never needed one. What are you guys talking about?

HD channels? I might care if I had big screen plasma on the boat. On a 26" LCD, who cares??

If I had it all to do over again, I'd still buy KVH
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I have the i2 not the i3, and love it. MY answers to your questions are as follows:

1. You can buy either 12v or 110v Directv boxes.

2. I only have one black box for Directv (very small) you need two if you want DishTV.

3. Yes, by laptop.

4. Yes, I get 12 HD channels now.

We now calculate how long to the fishing grounds in episodes or innings and the video output for the Garmins on deck are gorgeous.
You can't beat the customer service by calling Darren (Intellian Guru) directly on his cellphone.

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Now I'm a bit confused. I thought KVH was the only ones to sell a 12VDC DirecTV reciever (set top box) integrated with their ACU (Antenna Control Unit). The 12V (9 to 30VDC) unit from Intellian is the ACU. Don't you still have to buy a 110V home DirecTV receiver (like the H21).

Are you just running to your Garmin or do you also have a TV (i.e. 110V)?
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You can buy 12v Directv boxes from Consumers Marine or many others but Intellian doesn't provide them with the unit like KVH does. I purchased an H21 at Best Buy then I hooked it up to a flat screen down below and to all the 3 Garmins on deck/tower.
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