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Old 12-03-2007, 09:36 PM
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I am starting this thread, to invite anyone with any questions about LED Underwater Lighting, or Underwater lighting in general to get the answers they need, to make an informed decision before purchasing any brand of Underwater Light.

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Old 12-04-2007, 08:59 AM
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Am having a 34 ft. express twini engine diesel boa tbuilt for me. I would like a couple under water lights. What do you suggest. The boat will be kept on a lift.
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Shouldn't this thread be in the vendors forum?
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:10 AM
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Shouldn't this thread be in the vendors forum?

We have just signed up to the Vendors forum and will be posting any messages about our product on there from now on. This thread however is intended for anyone deciding on any underwater lighting manufacturers products, about which they want any advice on: ie electrical operating values, quality of light output in the water etc.

This thread is not intended to push our product at all, we would just like customers to be fully advised and educated about the differences in technology and the benefits of each product. Anyone wanting a recommendation for their boat, should contact us directly.

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30 foot scarab sport with twin engine bracket... I was wondering what my options were... I heard the blue ligth is better than the white...
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30 foot scarab sport with twin engine bracket... I was wondering what my options were... I heard the blue ligth is better than the white...
If you could find my email address from my profile on here and send me a message there, i'll be happy to give you a recommendation for your boat.

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Old 12-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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I was considering your 3010's and the DeepSea Power and Light 150 HID's and would like to know how the 3010's compare in lumens? I know your advertising says comparable to some HID's but how do they compare to DeepSea Power and Light 150's.
I had two light pockets molded into my hull at 20 degrees and spaced a little better than 3 feet apart, I am just not sure which light I am going to go with just yet. My plan is to use the lights mostly offshore fishing and to attract the fish in the harbors for my kids to watch.
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:14 PM
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There can be no question, that DeepSee Power and Light's 150w HID, is the best designed HID on the market. Its quality, in terms of manufacturing and light output surpasses all of the competition.

The output of DSPL 150w HID, will be in excess of our 3010 series, purely due to these facts. This is the case when compared with our white light.

However, if you were to compare like for like with our blue light, our blue 3010 would be brighter. This is due to the fact that in order to obtain a blue light from an HID, you will need to use a blue filter. The blue filter is placed at the lens of the fixture, which filter the colour of the white light coming out of the bulb. White light is made up of all of the colours in the spectrum, so the lens filters out all of the colours except the blue. This in turn, diminishes the output of the light, since only the blue is getting through. This will also increase the temperature within the bulb housing, which in turn shortens the bulb life.
Our LED's are manufactured in the colour that they will be used, by dying the phosphur. This means that a clear lens can be used for every light, increasing the light output.

The hue of the blue light also harmonizes much better with the water, due to its wavelength, so when comparing a 3010 blue to a 3010 white, the blue will be seen to travel much furthur in the water.

Of course, this information on our blue light is irrelevant to the question, since DeepSee don't manufacture their HID's in colors. (Or last time we checked).

So in closing, if our 3010 series white light was put up against a DeepSee 150w HID, the DeepSee would be slightly brighter. If their light went up against our 3010 blue light in the water, I anticipate the difference in output would be too close to call.

If you wanted to use the lights purely for aesthetics, our blue lights look amazing in the water, and have been proven, time and time again to attract fish; much more intensely than the white light. (Have a look at the gallery section).

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Old 12-06-2007, 09:12 AM
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Thank you for your reply, I truly believe you answered honestly based on my research and I appreciate your answer. The few things that I like about the LED's is the color, flexibility to turn on and off with out shorting bulb life, lower running temperatures and the size of the hole in the hull, with that said I guess I am going with the 3010's in blue.
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Thank you for your reply, I truly believe you answered honestly based on my research and I appreciate your answer. The few things that I like about the LED's is the color, flexibility to turn on and off with out shorting bulb life, lower running temperatures and the size of the hole in the hull, with that said I guess I am going with the 3010's in blue.
Fantastic news! When you install the lights, be sure to take some pictures and we will upload them to our new customer gallery section which we will be starting soon.

This offer goes to all customers, send us your pictures and we will upload them to our gallery section.

We are now Vendors on here, and as such have a vendors forum. If you have any questions you would like answering by us, we will be more than happy to answer to the best of our ability.

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I saw some infor about your products on a magazine's web site. I've been looking into installing lights on my boat. We are building a fishing boat. It is approximately 14' wide at the transom.

Here are the questions:

1) Should the lights face down below the boat or out from the transom?

2) How many lights do you recommend that we run?

3) Is blue the best fish attracting light?

4) What lens do you recommend?

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Ocean LED

I saw some infor about your products on a magazine's web site. I've been looking into installing lights on my boat. We are building a fishing boat. It is approximately 14' wide at the transom.

Here are the questions:

1) Should the lights face down below the boat or out from the transom?

2) How many lights do you recommend that we run?

3) Is blue the best fish attracting light?

4) What lens do you recommend?

Hi thanks for the opportunity to answer your questions:

Ill answer them in a slightly different order that you asked them!

2: When it comes to deciding how many lights to place on your transom, it almost always comes down to personal choice. One of our best customers, Viking, install anything from 2, 3 or 4 in the transom, which is completely dependant on the customers choice.

Obviously 4 lights out of the back of a 14' transom would give you the best output and spread of light depending on which series of light you use.

To use Viking as a good example, they regularly install our 2010 series in either Flush-Mount or Thru-Hull series out of the transom. We have several pictures of Viking sportsfishing boats in our gallery section on the website showing the differences in light output, varying on the quantity used.

3: From our own studies, we have found that the blue light works much better for attracting fish than the coventional white lights. A scientific reason for this can be found by "googling" the subject and it has been proven to work.

Testimonials as to how effective our blue lights are on fishing trips can be seen on television on "Reel Adventures". Aswell as advertising on their show, they also have our lights installed on their boats and are currently in production on a show based around the effectiveness of our blue lights whilst fishing. They back our product 100% and have caught many more fish with them, than without!

Another customer who fishes commercially for swordfish has said that he cannot imagine fishing at night without our light; since the blue light seems to have a calming effect on the fish, meaning it doesn't fight as much when they get it on the boat, plus they can actually see what they are doing whilst catching it!

We also have many videos on our website of the blue lights on, and literally thousands of fish swimming around the back of the boat! Check out our new video gallery section of the website to see the short videos first hand.

3/4: This question goes hand in hand together since depending on where you mount your lights, varies the type of lens you may want to use.

Our standard 50 degree lens, shoot the lights beam out in a torch light pattern. The is the same for all manufactures of underwater lights. If you mounted the lights straight out the back of the transom, you would get dark spots between the lights, but the lights would go very far! For this option our Thru-Hull series would be best.

If you were to mount the lights facing down, the 50 degree lens option would give a massive halo effect, without any dark spots. We recommend if possible, to angle your lights down at 15 degrees, which also eliminates dark spots, but would be quite a costly install to build the appropriate wedge.

The 180 degree lenses enables the customer to mount the light straight out the back of the transom and achieve the halo effect. The light is diffused as it exits the light, meaning all of the dark spots are eliminated. The drawback to this option is that if the light is diffused in this way, the penetration of the light is reduced when compared to a 50 degree lens.

(If you have a small swim platform, the light output from the 50 degree lenses would meet up where the swim platform ends, thus achieving the halo effect, and having maximum distance on the light output).

As stated before, what kind of mounting option, or lens option you want, depends on what kind of effect you are trying to achieve. There are a lot of parameters to consider, and I have only scratched the surface so far in this reply.

(Another parameter to consider is that since you can run at night with our lights on; even if they are out of the water, you will get an illuminated rooster tail out of the back of your boat. This is also in the video gallery section of our website, and looks exceptionaly cool! We are the only quality underwater lighting company you will find, which will allow you to run with your lights on, without damaging your lights, or more importantly your hull! To get the biggest and best rooster "flame" the 50 degree lenses will make your rooster tail that much bigger)!

In conclusion, choosing what style is best for you is a trade off of factors. The 50 degree will give you furthur water pentration than the 180, but you will have those slightly annoying dark spots between the lights. (unless you have a swim platform)!

If it was my boat, I would go for 3 of the 2010's on your 14' transom, or 2 of the 3010's, all in a Thru-Hull style in a 50 degree lens. My color choice would also be blue since it works the best for fish, and also looks very cool!

(Be sure to check out our new green series of lights, which also looks fantastic in the water)!

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OceanLed,

Thanks for the through response.
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Ocean LED I am a little confused on the lamp type of your lights.

This is from your site which seems like these are LED lights.
Available in 1010, 1520, 2010 & 3010 Series with Super White LEDs, Super Blue LEDs and the Super Green LEDs.

Then your specs show halogen, Xenons and HID. This confuses me are they LED or one of these? These are different types of light correct? Love your product just wanting to understand it better.
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Ocean LED I am a little confused on the lamp type of your lights.

This is from your site which seems like these are LED lights.
Available in 1010, 1520, 2010 & 3010 Series with Super White LEDs, Super Blue LEDs and the Super Green LEDs.

Then your specs show halogen, Xenons and HID. This confuses me are they LED or one of these? These are different types of light correct? Love your product just wanting to understand it better.
Thanks.
Hi,

First of all let me apologize for the confusion, the specfication sheet is not as explanatory as it should be!!

Basically, the columns on the spec sheet are broken down into various columns. We only sell LED, and do not stock Xenon, HID or Halogen. The columns with those old lighting products are there to show how our lights compare with the old styles of lighting.

The sheet basically says that our:

1520 LED series is comparable to a 35w Xenon
2010 LED series is comparable to a 50w Xenon
3010 LED series is comparable to some 150w HID
4010 LED series has no comparison

Sorry for any confusion, because of this we will be updating our specification sheet to demonstrate this in a much clearer fashion!

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Got it and thanks, I may have just over looked that. BTW no apology necessary you have a great product and looking forward to giving them a try.
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Do you think in the future these lights will go down in cost so that the average boat could afford them. I just do not have $5,000 to spend on some underwater lights
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Do you think in the future these lights will go down in cost so that the average boat could afford them. I just do not have $5,000 to spend on some underwater lights
At as October 1st this year, we actually cut our prices on average by around 10%. We can only see our lights getting cheaper in the future, depending as you would expect on the manufacturing costs. Due to the investment in R+D, and the high quality materials we use, our margins, therefore our price is quite inflexible at this time. All of our products are hand built in our own factory, and we source nothing from China.

What needs to be remembered is that our lights are not too dissimilar in price from our competitions. However, with the extra money you invest with our product, you get all of the benefits. A cleaner, better light output, never having to change a bulb, run with your lights on etc.

We do have our budget range of lights (X-520), in white blue and green. This little Flush-Mount light is just 10w in power, and gives off an extraordinary amount of light!.

Be sure to check the website in the New Year for another new range of products that will not break the bank!

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