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Old 09-23-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Suzuki SMIS owner manual

Can someone link me to the owner's manual.

I like to see what this 4" multiguage is capable of.

I want to know if this one guage can display all the proper neccessary info at a glance.

Things I like to see at a glance are:
tachometer
plus
engine trim
plus
fuel flow (gph/mpg)


Thing that I can toggle.
fuel
or
voltage
or
water pressure
or
hour
or
speed
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Sorry, I don't have a link to the owners maual,but you can setup to 4 fields on each page.
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I know you can setup 4 fields. The qestion for the owners manual was - what combinations are those 4 fields.

At a glance I would like see (1) tach, (2) trim, (3)fuel flow, (4)fuel. Is this possible?
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Old 09-23-2007, 10:56 PM
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I believe so.
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I need some actual FACT before I consider spending $500 for a pair of guages. Anyone SMIS owners. Please pull out your owner's manual.
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Let me add to this. The local suzuki dealer/manager didn't even have a clue.
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Yes on everything except for water pressure it is only available on the 300.
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if you're getting twin engines I would get at least 3 SMIS gauges or to save a little money get one SMIS and a pair of lowrance LMF-400. The LMFs are identical to the suzuki gauges they just cannot display check engine data.
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Can someone link me to the owner's manual.
http://store.brownspoint.com/detail....id=990C0-88001
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Let me add to this. The local suzuki dealer/manager didn't even have a clue.
No one does. FYI I posted recently that I wasn't very impressed with the SMIS gauge on my zuke. For the money you are talking about (actually about $350-$400 for everything I think) you can buy 4 discrete gauges that will be easier to read.

The only really interesting data the SMIS gauge will get you is fuel flow. It won't give you water pressure, engine water temp, oil pressure, or a lot of other things you might expect. (although interestingly the manual mentions a lot of these, the EP-20 engine interface apparently does not report them) It does report "Engine status" but mine just says "OK" and as far as I can tell it will report the same 4 failures that the idiot lights would on the suzuki tach.
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g through the same excercise myself and trying to determine which way to go. I am really only interested in fuel flow / used / left but I do not ewant to use the flow sensors as used with Navman and some Lowrance. I was hoping to get the NMEA2000 setence from the Suz and combined with tank level (N2K) indicator and GPS I would have what I am looking for. I am happy with the standard Suz tach and trim gauges but would really like fuel management at an affordable price!!!
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I am going through the same excercise myself by trying to determine which way to go fpr fuel management. I am really only interested in fuel flow / used / left but I do not want to use the flow sensors (twin Suz) as used with Navman and some Lowrance units. I was hoping to get the NMEA2000 setence from the Suz engines and combined with tank level (N2K) indicator and GPS I would have what I am looking for (fuel used / fuel left / GPM etc). I am happy with the standard Suz tach and trim gauges but would really like fuel management at an affordable price!!!
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I am going through the same excercise myself by trying to determine which way to go fpr fuel management. I am really only interested in fuel flow / used / left but I do not want to use the flow sensors (twin Suz) as used with Navman and some Lowrance units. I was hoping to get the NMEA2000 setence from the Suz engines and combined with tank level (N2K) indicator and GPS I would have what I am looking for (fuel used / fuel left / GPM etc). I am happy with the standard Suz tach and trim gauges but would really like fuel management at an affordable price!!!
When my dad bought his new boat he was in the same position. We researched several different options we found that the paddle wheel sensors are not accurate with suzuki due to the dual fuel pumps.
What he ended up doing is removing his speed gauge, which is completly useless IMHO, and replaced it with a lowrance LMF-400 and two ep-20 suzuki interface sensors. So far it is dead on and we have found that the analog gauges are about 100-200 rpm off. Now he is getting ready to dump the rest of his analog gauges and replace them with a few more LMF and a SMIS gauges.
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if you're getting twin engines I would get at least 3 SMIS gauges or to save a little money get one SMIS and a pair of lowrance LMF-400. The LMFs are identical to the suzuki gauges they just cannot display check engine data.
What is the third guage for. Fill me on the setup.
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The third would be for fuel flow or any other data that you chose. What I have found with the gauges is that you can put to much info on one screen, and it can be difficult to read. If you like to monitor multiple things a glance the third screen allows you to show more data without having to flip through multiple screens, which can be difficult in rough weather conditions.

As long as you are looking at these gauges I would seriously look at the Lowrance
LMF-400 and LMF-200 the Suzuki SMIS gauges are actually made by Lowrance. The only difference between the two is that the SMIS can read the suzuki trouble codes and costs twice as much, but other then that they are the same.

I would recommend getting one SMIS and two LMF-400s it would still keep you in the same price range but would get you an extra gauge.




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I am almost getting to the point where somethings are better left analog.

Only thing I could consider going digital is engine management.
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I am almost getting to the point where somethings are better left analog.

Only thing I could consider going digital is engine management.
This is what I did. I went with the basic Suzuki Tach with analog fuel level and voltmeter. Then I added one LMF-400 to monitor the various engine functions.

I figure this way I can see the most basic/important things at a glance, the rest I can play with on the LMF-400(the Suzuki SMIS gauge is based off the Lowrance LMF-400, but the LMF-400 is MUCH cheaper)

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hi i just bought 2 df140 suzuki 2008 model engines, im interested on the digital multifuntion gauges, need some advice, on whats the recomended setting, somebody tell me to use one smis from suzuki that it would have the alarm of the engines.. but dont know if it will handle the two engines alarms. and the other one to use a lmf400 becuase its cheaper, also whats the difference between ep20 and the suzuki interface...that cost double.. please need help so i can buy everything i need to setup my engines. thanks
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hi i just bought 2 df140 suzuki 2008 model engines, im interested on the digital multifuntion gauges, need some advice, on whats the recomended setting, somebody tell me to use one smis from suzuki that it would have the alarm of the engines.. but dont know if it will handle the two engines alarms. and the other one to use a lmf400 becuase its cheaper, also whats the difference between ep20 and the suzuki interface...that cost double.. please need help so i can buy everything i need to setup my engines. thanks
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hi i just bought 2 df140 suzuki 2008 model engines, im interested on the digital multifuntion gauges, need some advice, on whats the recomended setting, somebody tell me to use one smis from suzuki that it would have the alarm of the engines.. but dont know if it will handle the two engines alarms. and the other one to use a lmf400 becuase its cheaper, also whats the difference between ep20 and the suzuki interface...that cost double.. please need help so i can buy everything i need to setup my engines. thanks
I have a DF140 and the LMF-400 and have gone through all of the same things you're looking at right now.

The LMF-400 can definitely display data from 2 different engines - though you may *want* 2 where you have 2 engines. At one point, I thought the Suzuki SMIS gauge offered a bit more data, but now I don't think so. There is only ONE Suzuki engine interface and it *IS* the Lowrance ep-20. Suzuki just rebadges it. The best place to get it is BOE Marine for $52. You can also get an LMF-400 with NO fuel flow sensor from BOE for around $125. You do not need a fuel flow sensor with an LMF-400 if you are connecting it to a Suzuki because the engine's computer will provide all the fuel flow data.

The only other thing you'd really probably want with this setup is a GPS input for the LMF-400. That means something like a chartplotter or FF/plotter combo unit which has NMEA2000. That way, you can get speed and MPG displays. IMO Lowrance has the best setup for this right now.

Feel free to PM me also.

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