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I was wondering which bottom machine you think would be better a raymarine dsx600 or furuno fcv620.. also was wondering which transducer would be best a thru hull or transom mount? this machine would be used on a 23' center console. any help would be apreciated
I'm no expert on marine electronics and I can't speak specifically to either of the units you've referenced here, but for what its worth, I'd go with the Raymarine every time if it were me. I've owned both and I recently bought a used boat with a Furuno unit pre-installed. It simply doesn't compare in terms of user friendiness, features, versatility, size, clarity, overall visibility, etc. And I'd be surprised if the preponderance of other users disagree with that.
I'm no expert on marine electronics and I can't speak specifically to either of the units you've referenced here, but for what its worth, I'd go with the Raymarine every time if it were me. I've owned both and I recently bought a used boat with a Furuno unit pre-installed. It simply doesn't compare in terms of user friendiness, features, versatility, size, clarity, overall visibility, etc. And I'd be surprised if the preponderance of other users disagree with that.
Let me be the first to surprise you . I would pick Furuno over Raymarine any day of the week based on performance, reliability, customer service and user friendliness. I don't have any direct experience with the models mentioned but currently have Navnet 1 and love it.
Asking the question on the "Marine Electronics" forum might get the original poster more information.
Yep X-ducer has a lot to do with it. Let's put it on a level playing field and use a B-60 tilted element X-ducer. It's 600watt's.
Raymarine 600X = 500 Watts output power
Furuno 620 = 600 watts.
Read the problem's that folk's have had with their Ray's in the Electronic's section. Then read about the Furuno.
This stuff is all made to run in Auto mode. Auto mode kick's filters in. this filters imfo out too. It's made that way for Dummies.
Learn to run your stuff in manual mode. Ask the tech's at the manufactures and they will tell you that.
Knobs are KING for running in manual mode. I teach people in 2min how to operate my Furuno 582 that have never seen one before.
Adjust the depth = turn the knob
Adjust the gain = turn another knob.
Did I mention that raymarine doesn't get another dime of my money? Screw me once shame on you. Screw me twice shame on me.
Good point Ed, I was just going to suggest the same thing. As for Furuno and NavNet, I've currently got the 1710C with C-MAP and I would agree with respect to Customer Service (its XLNT with Furuno), but functionally, I much prefer the C60 Raymarine.
Good point Ed, I was just going to suggest the same thing. As for Furuno and NavNet, I've currently got the 1710C with C-MAP and I would agree with respect to Customer Service (its XLNT with Furuno), but functionally, I much prefer the C60 Raymarine.
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Wow! What a shocker! That's 4 outta 5 votes in favor of Raymarine. Go figure! Maybe that's why 9 outta 10 boats for-sale have Raymarines on them. Bah-haaa!
I guess I'll take a harder look at my Furuno GP-1710C to see what I'm missin'!
I can speak to Raymarine customer service. I have a Raymarine Auto Pilot system, the control head needed a code upgrade. I fed-ex'd it up there monday, they did the work and fed-ex'd it back to me so that I would be able to use it for the weekend. I'm a raymarine fan.
Yep X-ducer has a lot to do with it. Let's put it on a level playing field and use a B-60 tilted element X-ducer. It's 600watt's.
Raymarine 600X = 500 Watts output power
Furuno 620 = 600 watts.
Read the problem's that folk's have had with their Ray's in the Electronic's section. Then read about the Furuno.
This stuff is all made to run in Auto mode. Auto mode kick's filters in. this filters imfo out too. It's made that way for Dummies.
Learn to run your stuff in manual mode. Ask the tech's at the manufactures and they will tell you that.
Knobs are KING for running in manual mode. I teach people in 2min how to operate my Furuno 582 that have never seen one before.
Adjust the depth = turn the knob
Adjust the gain = turn another knob.
Did I mention that raymarine doesn't get another dime of my money? Screw me once shame on you. Screw me twice shame on me.
First I agree with you totally as far as running in manual instead of auto. However I don't understand whats your obsession with knobs. It actually sounds ridiculous that you would pic a unit beacuse it has knobs. I mean if your missing fingers or maybe your captian hook?
I fish boats with both units on a regular basis. As far as normal applications go I think the average fish finder like the two mentioned here are basicallly on a level playing field and really comes down to personal preference. On the more adavanced commercial models then I would go Furuno all the way. However, If your planning on a multi use unit like the e- series, c-series, or nav net, then there are other things to consider. The Raymarine is my choice then.
If you want problems, choose the Ray. If you actually want to use your bottom machine, choose Furuno. Problem after problem with the Ray stuff in the electronics forum. Don't take my word for it, go look for yourself.
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Wow, I would have to write a book to cover the pros and cons of all four systems you have descibed. Price for any of them is going to be pretty close equally equipped. Here is what most consider to be the scoop - Furuno is best for radar, Raymarine best for FF, and Garmin best for gps. Taking into account all three operations Raymarine and Simrad shine as being pretty good across the board. The worst chartplotter is Furuno and the worst FF and Radar is Garmin. (mind you, I would be perfectly content on a boat with any of these setups so the differences are minor as far as I am concerned). For construction Furuno is #1, ray and simrad # 2 and garmin # 4. Ease of use across the board would put Garmin at #1, Ray #2 and Fur/Simrad at #4.
I have RM C80 with all the extras for almost 2 years and I am satisfied. I would purchase the same RM stuff again if I were in the market today.
I have used Garmin and Furuno F/F's. Furuno is better and the customer service I have received from Furuno has been top notch...With all the complaints I have seen on the electronics page, I would be hesitant to spend my hard earned money on one.
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If you want the real truth go walk around your comercial and charter fleet dock. There is a reason why most use Furuno, these guys need there equipment to function day in and day out. The best como units and the best finders.......Mark
These guys do not have a biased opinion they need equipment that works 24-7,,,,,
However I don't understand whats your obsession with knobs. It actually sounds ridiculous that you would pic a unit beacuse it has knobs.
That is only one reason, but pushing multi buttons for a menu just plain Suck's anymore.
As I said I can teach someone that has never seen it to operate a Furuno with knobs in 2min.
That will NEVER happen with a unit that you have to jump thru menu's.
This speak's volume's as to the user friendliness of how easy they are to operate in a manual mode.
Raymarine does it for me...DEFINETLY for the DF. I have used a newer Furuno and the Raymarine. Hands down Raymarine! Totally easier to use and won't need adjustments. Mine never needs adjusting. Out of the box works fantastic. I have the 600dx and the DSM 250 system. On different freq's. People are always amazed at how well they work!! And again, without messing with 'em!!