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I'm trying to decide if NMEA 2000 capability is an important factor in my next purchase. After looking at the Raymarine web site they say this:
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Raymarine supports the continued adoption of the NMEA 2000 protocol. We we are proud to be one of the first manufacturers to produce NMEA 2000 certified electronics with the release of ST290 instruments in 2002. E-Series displays are NMEA 2000 certified, ensuring future compatibility with NMEA 2000 electronic engine systems.
So, are there any NMEA 2000 engines? I looked on Suzuki's site and Evinrude's site, but I could not find any engines that advertized NMEA 2000 data. Arey there any?
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I don't work for BRP so please don't hold my feet to the fire on this but I think the following is accurate.
All mid-range (115hp) and larger Evinrude ETECs are NMEA 2000 compliant. 90hp and smaller ETECs are not. I had a 250 last season and it was NMEA 2000 compliant. I have twin 175's this season and they are NMEA 2000 compliant. I have them integrated into a Lowrance NMEA 2000 network that includes digital gauges (one large and one small per engine), a LCX-111C sounder/gps plotter, a LRA-5000 Radar, fuel level sensors, water pressure sensors, oil tank level sensors, trim tab position, fuel flow from the EMM's, etc, etc. It's a very slick system.
I think some of the Honda's are NMEA 2000 compliant also but again, not totally sure on this one.
Anyone know about the Suzuki 250 or 300? I have narrowed my choices between the Suzuki and e-Tec. I'm leaning toward Suzuki, but if they are not NMEA compliant, then it will be e-Tec.
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I called Suzuki customer support and they were totally useless. They told me it "should work". I told them I can't spend $18,000 on "should work".
I did find Suzuki gagues for sale. They are called Suzuki SMIS gagues and are listed as NMEA 2000. So, it seems to me that if the gagues are NMEA 2000 the engiine would be to. Am I thinking wrong?
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However, you'll notice on that list that Lowrance has an EP-20 Suzuki engine interface. However I am unsure whether the EP-20 is available yet. Perhaps contact Lowrance.
The 300 zukes use the Lowrance nmea 2000 gauges (see pics and comments in this thread: http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...23231&posts=31)
From what I read, here and there, Suzuki is "trying" to upgrade their gauges to NMEA 2000 for all big block engines (like Evinrude) but it is not clear when!
All Suzuki EFI engines after 2005 are NEMA 2000 compliant. We are waiting for the interface cable and as of today the backorder release date is 12/5/06, subject to change of course. The cable will plug right into the Lowrance NEMA 2000 backbone and will give you fuel usage without a fuel flow sensor, engine hours, service codes, oil change alert, along with engine RPM, trim, battery voltage and oil, temp & rev limit alerts. You will be able to get fuel and water level adadpters, GPS antennas and depth transducers to plug right into the NEMA 2000 backbone, in addition to just about all the Lowrance units.
Thanks. Do you know if the cable will work Suzuki to Garmin 40XX/42XX series? That is what I plan to put on my boat.
If you are not planning two 12 inch screens, then the screen gets crowded fast....and punching buttons to get pages gets old on a trip....think about seperate guages for engines - I want it to be avail on my NMEA 200 screen , but its nice to have analog readouts fed by digital... here's mine...water temp for both motors is directly above the GPS...remember, if everything is going thru 1 screen, everything goes out at once too...
Just talked to a online Suzuki dealer today. The cable to connect the Suzukis will be in next week, its all NMEA 2000 compliant and Suzukis new gauge package is a Lowrance. My Lowrance talks to my Raymarine, thanks to NMEA 2000. Next week, full intergration....
q3131a - 11/21/2006 9:01 PM Thanks. Do you know if the cable will work Suzuki to Garmin 40XX/42XX series? That is what I plan to put on my boat.
No, just the Lowrance system as far as I know. If you go to the Lowrance site and look at the LowranceNet system you will see the backbone and connectors, and all the available gauges and displays that will work.Most of the units are being upgraded for 2007 and are not shown on the site yet. They are pretty much unchanged except for some added features. I've run boats with the system, and was just at a distributor show and got some insight on the new models.
Thanks. Do you know if the cable will work Suzuki to Garmin 40XX/42XX series? That is what I plan to put on my boat.
If you are not planning two 12 inch screens, then the screen gets crowded fast....and punching buttons to get pages gets old on a trip....think about seperate guages for engines - I want it to be avail on my NMEA 200 screen , but its nice to have analog readouts fed by digital... here's mine...water temp for both motors is directly above the GPS...remember, if everything is going thru 1 screen, everything goes out at once too...
I am trying to keep it simple like this:
Wheel, Tach, fuel, Throttle, Trim Tabs, Switches, VHF radio, AM/FM/CD/DVD and "all in one" electronics.
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Here's what I would like to see someone design for NMEA 2000 data:
a pop up alarm for engine data:
when you setup the display you input the parameters you want the high/low side to be for each function - for example; water temp of 175 degrees. If ever the temp exceeds 175, the guage will pop up over the display and alert you to the problem. Otherwise only the display would show a green "OK" on the lower corner and maybe tach rpms overlaid on the map....
that would reduce the page turning when everything is going thru one display....
stwal - 1/17/2007 8:49 AM I have a friend that bought a new DF175 2006, there do you connect the NMEA 2000 cable to the motor?
You have to purchase a Suzuki interface cable. The cable plugs into the engine at the laptop diagnostic plug. The other end plugs into the Suzuki or Lowrance NMEA 2000 backbone cable.I am still waiting for my first shipment of interface cables and gauges, so there are none available as yet.
many diesels and newer gm based gas inboards talk SAE J1939 - Maretron makes a J1939 to NEMA2000 bridge to display the engine information on NEMA 2000 displays, though not as comprehensive as a native J1939. FW Murphy makes two J1939 devices - PowerView and HelmView which shows everything you wanted to know but were afraid to ask about your engine, temps/gph/rpm/etc etc. Crusader offers them as well.
NMEA 2000 and Engines 
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