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Old 07-11-2010, 12:49 PM
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I posted this on a dead thread and thought it might be better in a new one. im new to the forum and have a question that i cant find an answer to. i bought a 14' mirrocraft that is currently registered in wisconsin. the boat is beautiful and has been completely restored. looks to be a 60's model. i live in louisiana and called WL & F to ask them what i needed to title the boat. on the current registration it says year: unknown and under HIN: unknown. WL & F says that they can not guess on a year for the boat and that i would have to provide some sort of proof of the year. does anyone know how to do this? the current owner has tried to find out before through mirrocraft and he said all they did was send him a sales brochure. WL & F said not having the HIN was not a problem because i could have it inspected and everything would be fine but no year was unacceptable.
it has the production # on the left transom stamped E24-1044-58S... can that be used to find the date??
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tell them it is a 58 - as the last digits in the production stamp.
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The HIN; hull identification number, is usually stamped on the transom of the boat. Why would you not think that number is the HIN??

Also, the last two numbers are usually the year of the vessel...
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I've been doing alot of research on this. Typically the hin is on the right side of the boat. This stamped number is on the left. If you look at the nada boat guide it goes back to 75'. It shows the production number on there and most of the boats production numbers end in 58. I know that is not the year. I've seen many pictures of boats just like mine and it could be a 65 - 74. I have to show proof to WL & F or they said the boat would be worthless. It does have a 35hp merc 350 on it with serial numbers. I checked them and it could be a 64-66 motor. So I'm guessing the boat is a 65 or 66. WL & F said we couldn't guess and had to have proof.
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Gotta go with a 58model on this one. The HIN is the way to go.
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Gotta go with a 58model on this one. The HIN is the way to go.
Well I wish you worked for WL & F because they won't allow me to use the production number as the HIN. This boat has never had a HIN. Like I said a 1975 boat has production numbers that end in 58. So does that make a 1975 boat a 1958?
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Boats built before 1972 did not have a HIN. I'm trying to find out how to tell what year a boat was manufactured by researching the web so if I can find out I'll post it here.

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Well mirrocraft wrote me back and told me my boat is a 1965 ski-n-troll.
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hello everyone
I posted this on a dead thread and thought it might be better in a new one. im new to the forum and have a question that i cant find an answer to. i bought a 14' mirrocraft that is currently registered in wisconsin. the boat is beautiful and has been completely restored. looks to be a 60's model. i live in louisiana and called WL & F to ask them what i needed to title the boat. on the current registration it says year: unknown and under HIN: unknown. WL & F says that they can not guess on a year for the boat and that i would have to provide some sort of proof of the year. does anyone know how to do this? the current owner has tried to find out before through mirrocraft and he said all they did was send him a sales brochure. WL & F said not having the HIN was not a problem because i could have it inspected and everything would be fine but no year was unacceptable.
it has the production # on the left transom stamped E24-1044-58S... can that be used to find the date??
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If it is registered in Wisconsin, and is registered with a date, use that registration paper.

If it is not, have the seller give you a bill of sale with a date of manufacture on it, and use that. If he thinks it's a '75, then it is a '75...
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It's taken care of now. WLF wanted something from mirrocraft or they said my boat was scrap. They said I couldn't just make a date up. And besides no one ever thought it was a 75. I was using that to show that you couldn't use the last 2 digits of the production # as the date. My boat is a 65. The last 2 digits of the production # is 58. The last 2 digits of a mirrocraft from 75 is also 58. I've seen many threads where people were steered wrong because of someone telling them to use the last two digits of the production # as the date on a vintage boat. There is a difference between the production number and HIN.
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It's taken care of now. WLF wanted something from mirrocraft or they said my boat was scrap. They said I couldn't just make a date up. And besides no one ever thought it was a 75. I was using that to show that you couldn't use the last 2 digits of the production # as the date. My boat is a 65. The last 2 digits of the production # is 58. The last 2 digits of a mirrocraft from 75 is also 58. I've seen many threads where people were steered wrong because of someone telling them to use the last two digits of the production # as the date on a vintage boat. There is a difference between the production number and HIN.
You are correct! The Hull Identification Number (HIN) was implemented on Nov 1,1972 by federal law. Prior to that, all that was used was the production number.
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You can go to "fiberglassics.com" to get tons of info on the boat, and a lot of help.
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Thanks beenie. Mirrocraft emailed me the sales brochure for the 65 line of boats. It has all the specs in it and some great pics too. I will post one soon. There's a couple of pictures with a mermaid in the background. Very cheesy looking. Lol I love it.
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Ok boat paperwork is mailed off to wlf. Now to the trailer. The notary didn't want to give me a bill of sale on the trailer because of no vin. She called the DMV and they said no until it had a vin. State police said I needed a bill of sale before they would stamp it lol. So I talked the notary into going ahead with the bill of sale and then I took it and the trailer to state police. They stamped it and gave me the necessary paperwork. So now I have to take it to the DMV. Hopefully there will be no more issues.
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Well I'm totally legal. Got my paperwork from wlf in 6 days! Went to DMV and got a tag for my trailer. Will be boating Sunday!
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