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Old 08-15-2004, 12:29 AM
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Is this sort of thing common in the Gulf? Scary. Makes you almost want to stay ashore...

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Aug. 14, 2004, 1:49AM

Man loses battle with Gulf bacteria
Houston dentist who was infected last month dies in Victoria hospital
By JOHN W. GONZALEZ
Copyright 2004 Houston Chronicle

A Houston dentist with a passion for Gulf Coast preservation has lost his monthlong battle with a flesh-eating bacteria that invaded a cut on his leg while he was fishing near Port O'Connor, officials said Friday.

Dr. Kenneth Dean Creamer, 52, who practiced dentistry in northwest Houston, died late Thursday in a Victoria hospital where he had been treated since July 17, two days after he was exposed to the saltwater bacteria vibrio vulnificus.

His is the seventh vibrio-related death in Texas this year, officials said. At least a dozen Texans have been injured by the choleralike bacteria as well, according to the Texas Department of Health.

Another man on Creamer's fishing-contest outing was infected by a different strain of the bacteria. He was released from the Victoria hospital on Monday after more than three weeks of treatment, including several surgeries to remove tainted flesh. Officials attributed his survival to swift medical treatment after exposure.

Creamer apparently got a minor cut on his leg July 15 when he slipped on a dock. The following day, the leg grew swollen and he sought treatment in Port Lavaca. By the second day he was critically ill, a spokesman at Citizens Medical Center in Victoria said.

"By the time he got here, vibrio had already infiltrated his blood system and he was in shock, which itself can be deadly," CMC spokesman Melissa Purl said. Within days, both legs were amputated and he sank into a coma, she said.

"I've never seen anybody fight to live harder in my whole life. It was absolutely amazing. Even though he was not conscious he was sedated and he was so very sick he fought the good fight. He was an inspiration to all of us," Purl said.

Creamer is survived by his wife, Jane, and two sons. Funeral services were pending.

Cared about conservation
Creamer was a leading figure in the Houston-based Coastal Conservation Association Texas for about 20 years, Executive director Pat Murray said.

Creamer was a member of the group's state and executive boards, and through the years had helped with fund-raising and youth and environmental programs.

"He's been involved since the get-go. He was a very, very strong supporter and hard worker for Texas coastal conservation efforts," Murray said.

"Ken cared dearly about the Texas coast and he put in so much work and time to try to ensure its longevity," he said. "His contributions to CCA will long be remembered. His contribution to the conservation of Texas coastal marine resources was substantial."

Others have been stricken
Creamer was one of several Houston-area residents stricken by the bacteria in Gulf waters this summer. A Bay City man who went fishing in the Laguna Madre and a Dayton man who vacationed in Freeport were successfully treated in late July for exposure to the vibrio bacteria.

Health experts said the bacteria is common in the Gulf and most prevalent in coastal and bay waters in warmer months. The bacteria can be ingested in contaminated seafood, such as oysters, or absorbed through skin wounds, but doesn't penetrate healthy skin.

The Centers for Disease Control, which has recorded vibrio-related illnesses and deaths since 1988, said cases are rare but underreported. A typical year brings 16 deaths along the Gulf Coast states, the CDC said.

The Texas Department of Health reported Friday that so far this year, there have been 31 illnesses caused by vibrio, including the seven deaths, four of which were attributed to eating contaminated oysters.

Experts say those who enter coastal waters should make note of skin cuts and check them later for redness or swelling. If caught quickly, illness caused by the bacteria is controllable with antibiotics.

COASTAL DANGER
Location : The bacteria, vibrio vulnificus , is common in the Gulf and most prevalent in coastal and bay waters in warmer months.
Transmission : It can be ingested in contaminated seafood, such as oysters, or absorbed through skin wounds; it doesn't penetrate healthy skin.
Confirmed cases : From March through July, there were 11 confirmed cases of non-fatal, wound-related vibrio infections in Texas, according to the CDC.
Precautions : Experts say those who enter coastal waters should make note of skin cuts and check them later for redness or swelling. If caught quickly, illness caused by the bacteria is controllable with antibiotics.

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Old 08-15-2004, 11:22 AM
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Honstly it's always present in our Saltwater, But it blooms so to speak when certain conditions
appear ... Sadly if the Gentalman had sought medical treatment right away he would still be with us today.
But if the proper precauations are taken your just as safe on the water and you are in your Bathroom


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as long as your immune system is not otherwise compromised, you are perfectly safe...it harms those with existing conditions, much like the bug found in raw shellfish
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I went offshore 4 saturdays ago and got soaked all day and the next day went into the lighthouse lakes and stepped out of the boat and back in. The next morning my toe was solid red and throbbed bad, I went straight to the Dr. and they said they were going to treat it like it was Vibrios as they did not have a culture at that time. They gave me 3 strong antibiotics and drew a line around the redness with a sharpee marker, told me to come in quickly if it crossed the line. Ater a week it finally quit throbbin and turned black and then 2 days later it healed up. I do know one thing it was one of the most painful things that has happened to me. The Dr. said that if you have diabetes, any liver problems, heavy drinker or low immunity system you are in bad trouble. I told him this is "no time to lie now because I drink plenty of beer" and he laughed. Anyways I am back to normal after taking all the antibiotics and have fished twice since.
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Old 08-16-2004, 04:38 PM
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something on ch 2 news at 11 after the olympics tonight.
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What I learned about the nasty bacteria is that it thrives in shallow, stagnant pools and calm waters. The deepwater is still OK
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sharks i tell you - sharks
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I run a dive service company, so I have a vested interest in having an education on the subject. Let me first say that we performed about 1,600 dives last year and I probably had at least twice that many barnacle cuts. Vibrio does seem to follow some general rules. The incidence of infection rises sharply in several groups and when you put those groups together you can see a more clearly why people are not rotting away along every beach on the south coast. The disease is ever present in sea water, but in very small quantities. Areas near oyster beds have significantly higher rates of infection. As with all viral and bacterial growth rates there is a temperature bell curve. As the water warms up they proliferate, the ideal seawater temperature is around 85 which we do not get to until late summer. If you look at the victims a disproportionate number (I can not remember number exactly but I'll say it was about 2/3rds) had a diminished immune system, and there was been support liver and kidney problems as well. Finally a great number of the infected people acted irresponsibly by waiting several days after they noticed inflammation.

When you put this all together you have your at risk groups: Age, health, area, time of year, and those who do not go to the hospital until it is too late. I think the media are mostly fatalist in convincing everyone to expect the worst case scenario as the new norm. It just is not happening, Of the hundreds of millions of people who played, worked, and relaxed in the water last year, how many people died last year from Vibrio- 40 or 50 all the way from Texas to Florida. I love the water and wont be chased out of it by "scare them into tuning in reporters" My advice to those of you are worrying about this stuff is stop. You are unlikely to get it and if on the snow ball's chance in Hell you do then go directly to your doctor the day your notice swelling an get treated, but do not allow your self to get cheated out of something you love because you confused hype with fact. You are sfer wading around in the ocean than you are driving through down town houston and its a whole lot more fun.
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Old 02-06-2005, 09:18 PM
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I also heard you should clean all wounds right away with some kind of disinfectant. My wife and I keep a a first aide kit with hydrogen peroxide with us all the time and clean any cut right away no mater how small.
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I hear that you should clean the wound w/peroxide and then seal it up with liquid band-aid or superglue. Anyone else heard this, or was someone blowing smoke up my skirt, I mean shorts.
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redleg,

From what I got it does not matter so much what you clean it with but when. You want to disinfect it as soon as possible. I normally do this at the beach if I cut myself and then check at home for any missed nicks or scrapes. I just use a regular bandaide at home if needed but will also allow for airdry. I don;t mind scars and the air seems to sometimes speed healing on me although it does leave a scar. My wife is in healthcare and she tries to bandage everything.

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Mike, I think the idea of the liquid band-aid or superglue, was to seal the wound with the idea of making another wade or 5 or 6. LOL

I'm with you on the airing it out bit, women say scars are SEXY. LOL
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i completely agree with the disinfectant. i use bleach for a couple of minutes, then rinse that off with something other than saltwater. i do not believe that closing the wound and getting back in the water is the smartest thing to do, but that's just my opinion !
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