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Here we go again...The Feds are trying to help us out.Article in Mobile paper this am shows just how f$#@d up these idiots are...I hope Crabtree has no more future in Politics. I wonder if he's married to Pelosi???And these Fed scientist..They're in Penn.
I vote to go whenever you can,catch all you can,Pay any fines,fillet and release,'cause they can't catch all of U.S. all the time
Just Pissed
where do they get these focking numbers?...oh wait, they pull them out of their asses. I want to do a survey to see how many fishermen along the gulf coast were checked to document their snapper catches last year??
if we caught to many pounds last year b/c the increase in size this year they will all be 100 pounds.this is the most bullshi!!!!!!! thing i have ever experienced!!!!!
They have got us by the balls and there is nothing we can do.
These rules they impose only encourage people to throw back a dead fish everytime they catch a bigger fish. How is that helping the fishery to recover?
The commercial guys do get checked. They are required to call 3 hours before they hit the dock and report their catch. They have to wait at the dock until the three hours is up for someone to show up. Whether an enforcement officer comes or not is not up to the commercial guy. He still has to wait until the 3 hours is up to take his fish out/off of the water. The advantage they have is that their fish has to be gutted. If they catch 200 lbs in a day, they have to gut their fish and then only have to claim 180 lbs. That way the commercial quota, which is about 3,500,000 pounds this year, is really about 4,000,000 pounds. The recreational guys don't get that extra little bit. They just get the previous years overcatch taken away from them. Why don't they just beat me over the head with a red snapper???
__________________ FISHUNT7 2301 Seaswirl CC Yamaha F225
Last edited by FISHUNT7; 02-03-2010 at 10:10 PM.
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They have got us by the balls and there is nothing we can do.
These rules they impose only encourage people to throw back a dead fish everytime they catch a bigger fish. How is that helping the fishery to recover?
The commercial guys do get checked. They are required to call 3 hours before they hit the dock and report their catch. They have to wait at the dock until the three hours is up for someone to show up. Whether an enforcement officer comes or not is not up to the commercial guy. He still has to wait until the 3 hours is up to take his fish out/off of the water. The advantage they have is that their fish has to be gutted. If they catch 200 lbs in a day, they have to gut their fish and then only have to claim 180 lbs. That way the commercial quota, which is about 3,500,000 pounds this year, is really about 4,000,000 pounds. The recreational guys don't get that extra little bit. They just get the previous years overcatch taken away from them. Why don't they just beat me over the head with a red snapper???
Thats my point, they are on the honor system for what they "claim" they have caught pound wise on unchecked trips. Its like a rec guy getting stopped with 20 fish too many... and saying "well the last three trips I caught nothing"
So what happened ? Did they decrease this years quota by 2 million pounds ? Things are crazy, they have these # that they obviously make up because nobody gets called. I've only been called by FWC twice but has nothing to do with NMFS. All I can say is show up in Washington DC. We have to make changes or die trying.
You guys in the gulf have a good distance to fed waters, I heard that the states involved aren't going to go by the fed law. Just what I heard, might want to check into it.
Thats my point, they are on the honor system for what they "claim" they have caught pound wise on unchecked trips. Its like a rec guy getting stopped with 20 fish too many... and saying "well the last three trips I caught nothing"
The commercial guys don't really work on the honor system. They are required to call in their catch 3 hours before they hit the dock. If they caught 200 lbs, they have to call in that they caught 200 lbs. They are required to wait at the dock for the conservation guys to come check them. That is not exactly what I call the honor system. If the guy catches 400 lbs and reports on 200 lbs, he could lose his license. It probably is not worth it to lose your license over.
According to an article in the Mobile Press Register, the quota will be 6,945,000 pounds for 2010.
That means the commercial guys will get 3,542,000 lbs and the recreational guys will get 3,403,000 pounds. According to the Magnusen-Stickittous Act, the 1,700,000 we caught over the limit last year will be subtracted from that. So we will actually only get 1,703,000 pounds this year. The article goes on to say that there will probably be a 60 day season instead of 65 like last year. If the fish have gotten any bigger this year than last year, the season could be cut down to 51 days.
__________________ FISHUNT7 2301 Seaswirl CC Yamaha F225
Last edited by FISHUNT7; 02-04-2010 at 07:01 PM.
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Yes Jay it is legal to keep red snapper caught in state waters, but La. state waters only go 3 miles out. I have only caught 1 undersized red snapper that close.
Gary, Sr.
A few years back a couple showed up at a small marina in south central La.(with no charter boats) representing themselves as contractors for the NMFS to survey the red snapper catches-ON A MONDAY MORNING!!!!!!!
A few years back a couple showed up at a small marina in south central La.(with no charter boats) representing themselves as contractors for the NMFS to survey the red snapper catches-ON A MONDAY MORNING!!!!!!!
They don't want to get the data, they have an agenda to carry out. It's just like the global warming thing, they moved all the temp guages south except for one. This helps their agenda about global warming. Things are going to change, there are too many angry americans for them not too. I think the start of the change came when Brown was elected. The investigation of NOAA has just started and I feel its going to expose more than we think.
I just can't see how us rec guys can go over this hypothetical limit. To me it seems ridiculous to put the blame on us. I get out every chance I get and if I am like most that leaves a whole 2 days out of the week to chose from. It seems as with most rec guys saturday and sunday are the only two days that will allow us to get out there. However, that does not mean I go out every single weekend. Sea conditions, weather, prior engagements, etc. play a huge factor on whether I can get out or not on a weekend and if I do get out I may not target snapper. The kings could be in close, may have a newbie on board that has never been offshore and does not feel comfortable doing so, tarpon are here in #'s, may just want to take the boat to the sandbar, and the list goes on. So I sit back and wonder if everyone else spends their time on the water as I do and if they do then there should be no way we could possibly come close to this number. Even further, a two per person limit is so small that it could not possibly be that detrimental to their existence given all the other factors I just mentioned. I just don't understand it. Am I that far off or does this seem like a pretty reasonable premise?
I was out several times last year watching commercial boats fill up to the gunnels. This was on a public wreck that somehow was paid for by us tax payers. My suggestion would be to eliminate commercial fishing on public reefs. Set aside areas for commercial and areas for recreational only. Neither can cross the battle lines. Do a legit survey two years later and see just who is over fishing their areas. Unfortunately IMO, commercial includes charter boats, especially for snapper. But, personal reefs should be the safe haven of the charter boat guys, again IMO. Let the liscenced charter boats fish year round on their individual wrecks/reefs and regulate their own fishery in their own location. Just my .02.
Snapper!!!!! 
I wonder if he's married to Pelosi???And these Fed scientist..They're in Penn.
alright who did it? who gets the spanking? 
