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Well that sucks. I just made up about 20 AJ rigs complete with 20/0 hooks, 400lb leaders and 200 lb swivels and then individually packaged them all in ziplock bags. Well, at least I know the ziplock bags should keep them "fresh" for a while.
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A person aboard a vessel for which a federal charter vessel/headboat permit for Gulf reef fish has been issued must also abide by this provision in state waters.
Only the Gulf headboats can keep fishing federal waters in 2009, adding more to the recreational quota.
This is on it's way to end up just like the red snapper.
NMFS is a joke and their methods of gathering data to determine that there was "overfishing" are rediculous to say the least. Unless we all get involved, there will be no more offshore fishing.
If you accept NOAA numbers, then you have to ask yourself why they have not succeeded in improving numbers of any single regulated stock since 1989. None. Not one *oddamned stock has improved. I'm pissed about my tax dollars going to waste.
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I agree Paul. The feds have not succeeded with any of their regulations, yet most species regulated at the state levels have made recoveries. It's ludicrous that these people are still allowed to make decisions. And it's not like AJ's weren't heavily regulated before, with our whole 1 fish per person limit and all...
I am one of those people who have had the entertainment of witnessing the SAFMC presenting data to support the red snapper closure in which one slide depicted an estimation of what the current red snapper biomass should be based on an extrapolation (projection) of data on a chart collected in the 1960's. Unbelievable. The FWC officers, the recs, the commercials, even the hotel personnel in the room laughed out loud or mumbled "bulls***".
1) Because, within the branches of NOAA, the leadership of the NMFS is NOT based on electable positions. Appointments are based on the chief of NOAA, and above that the secretary of commerce, and are indefinite. Crabtree doesn't care if you don't like him...he's not going anywhere!
2) Scientists may try to remain neutral, but isn't that pretty hard when groups like PEW fund many of the studies?
3) The reapproval of the Magnuson-Stevens Act allows fishery managers to take any "action" to protect a fishery (mostly by closures) within 1 year timeframe when a species is internally declared "overfished", using the "best available science". Keep in mind that this is intentionally worded that way: to you and I, "best available science" may mean a good but someone incomplete data set at its worst, but to the NMFS, "best available science" may mean a witch doctor from Haiti rolling chicken bones on the floor.
4) PEW. PETA. Anti-fishing agendas. Environuterrorists. How they work is simple: A few nut jobs create such powerful propaganda, that its almost irrefutable to ignorant people. College students, wealthy entrepeneurs, politicians, musicians, actors, even children. By feeding off the dumb or ignorant who have never held a fishing rod for more than 10 minutes in their lives, contributions are made and the snowball effect happens. You and I sign petitions in objection to these studies enforcing draconic regulatory measures based on poor science and inadequate data, however for each one of you, there are 30 hair-twirling, gum-smacking college girls who will whine on and on to each other, signing petitions and objecting to what pain we're inflicting to some poor fish, which according to them, should have equal rights to us. Remember, some of the wealthiest people in hollywood are also the dumbest humans in the world. Paris Hilton. Alec Baldwin. Pam Anderson. Hayden Panetiewhogivesacrapwhathernameis. All ignorant bastards with unbelievable influence and money and who are all environmentally active. And these are only a few off the top of my head.
4) So the NMFS have regulations that they cannot or will not enforce. So what do they do? They impose more regulations. That's right, if you can't enforce them, just pass more laws making it even more difficult. Hope everyone just gives up. Here's a clue, how about enforcing the laws you have, dumb***es!
5) The states do not have the balls or money to object the NMFS. The FWC is in rejection of all these closures and added regulations. However, if they're the ones to enforce them, how can they do it with conflicting requirements between state and federal waters? Remember, we're innocent until proven guilty. I don't need to prove to you that this amberjack was caught in state waters if you stopped me in state waters, regardless of where I really caught it. So, they adopt the same laws as the feds. I understand their logic and how hard the decision must be, but COME ON!!!! This is the kind of thing that brought this country into civil war 150 years ago. This isn't about you and I not going fishing, these decisions have a very profound socioeconomic impact that will cost the SE US billions of dollars. From the charter captains to the boat manufacturers to the fishing retail market to the restaurants, etc. BELIEVE IT!!! All because some granola eating, patchouli smelling twig with money and influence believes that fishing is a crime.
NMFS: Not My F***** Snapper!!!! What a waste of hard earned taxpayer dollars!!!
Go to theese links the gornvement agency Interagency Oceans Policy Task Force is trying to close like 90% of all commercial and recreational fishing in the U.S. both fresh and salt water.Nancy Sutly is in charge of this treaty there trying to pass, im not certain but along with some of the radicals in the white house she prob. has ties to p.e.t.a. somewhere.Do the research we need everyone that fishes raising hell.
How does their system work? They don't know how many fish I caught this year and they don't know how many I caught last year. I do think the AJ and Snapper fishing was better this year than previous years. I guess that is mostly due to how many gorgeous fishing days we had this summer.
Well you cant replace the Council, but you sure as hell can replace the people that appoint them. make your voice heard at the ballot box. If they are a liberal, democtat, secular, progressive a tree hugger or just plain nuts, replace them, that includes you Mr. Taylor and your band of idiots in Washington D.C. that don't have a clue of what the hell is going on. NOAA and the nuts behind them should be ashamed for ruining the recreational and charter fishing industry. Mr. Gene Taylor should pay more attention to the world around him instead of fighting the insurance companies about stuff he can't change. Its just a matter of time before ALL fishing and hunting will be a crime. Its just a matter of time before the GOM becomes a big MPA (marine protected area), just look at Hawaii and study the mpa's there and you will understand. Shame on you NOAA, Gulf marine fishiries council and you Mr. Taylor for letting this fly under the radar. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME. I hope to see you at the next "town hall" and i hope you have an answer to this question, but you will probably give the standard answer, I will get back to you on that. You and your "boss" and his merry men and women will be thrown out on your asses when the next election rolls around. Thats the best thing that could happen, yes its time "FOR A CHANGE" and YOUR ARE IT.
Gene Taylor is the best thing South Mississippi has going for it! He is also a great representative of somebody that enjoys and respects our waters. Whatever we do, we don't want to replace him!
Also, he is fighting for what he feels is ethical. His fight for an all perils insurance policy will prevent the loss of lives and reduce the ability of insurance companies to deny coverage to hardworking people that have been paying premiums their entire lives.
If you accept NOAA numbers, then you have to ask yourself why they have not succeeded in improving numbers of any single regulated stock since 1989. None. Not one *oddamned stock has improved. I'm pissed about my tax dollars going to waste.
Lets be real here. What about Redfish, kingfish, Striped Bass, Gag Grouper, Red Snapper
All of these fish I can catch more of than when I was a kid. I remember working on a good charter boat in the mid 80's and if we had 4-6 snappers and 2-4 Gag's in a mixed box of other fish that was a good all day charter.
I also remember catching 20+ AJ's on 4hr trips back then. That is not even thinkable now.
The number of boats out there has quadrupled and they all have GPS now. We only had Loran back then and only the large boats had that.
All I hear on this site is complaining about laws and nothing ab out the real problem. How many anglers kill more fish than they will ever eat. freeze them and end up throwing then out when they are freezer burnt. If anglers were more responsible and gave something back to the ocean instead of Take,Take,Take we would never gotten to the point that the Gov needed to make laws.
one again we're getting bent over by NMFS. next it's going to be mangroves, beeliners, almacos, cobia, wahoo, dolphin, tripletails, etc. where will it end?
Recreational Amberjack Fishing to Close Oct. 24th
