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Old 04-22-2009, 10:10 PM
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Arrow Little Lagoon, Gulf Shores...Are there sharks and gators?

I am looking into getting a kayak to fish out of this year. I live in Fairhope, but wanted to fish littlelagoon in it. I have fished it in a boat in the past with success, but never seen or heard of any sharks or alligators, until I loked at google maps and noticed Alligator lake at the far West of the lagoon. The East part of the lagoon has always looked scary to me.

Anyway, I would be fishing around the pass - in that general area, or wherever the fish are (specks and flounder) The reason I was looking at little lagoon was because it seemed harmless if I fell out of my kayak. I see people swimming and wading in it. I am afraid of being eaten by something.

Any thoughts from people that live around the area?
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If there's a fresh water lake with wildlife in and around it, plan on alligators being part of the ecosystem. Consider a call to the Gulf State Park offices in Gulf Shores because they should know whether that are any gators larger than 6' (large enough to cause concern).
Ask them about water mocassins while you're at it.

The alternative is to get a kayak that's 32-36" wide, so your chances of tipping are greatly reduced. There are some kayaks that you can even stand up in...do a Search on THT for Kayak within the past 3 months.
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I am afraid of being eaten by something.
I just don't know whether to laugh or take you seriously...
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I just don't know whether to laugh or take you seriously...
Normally, I would be offended at some one making fun of my fears on a message board, but I get it from friends and family everyday

My wife thinks I am nuts, because I will not even walk to the edge of a river bank, or put my toe in the water in the gulf.

She thinks I have a mental disability and need to see a psychiatrist

Anyway...unfortunately, I am serious
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youve got a better chance of being hit by a boat, struck by lightning, capsized and struck on the head and drowning...etc...than eaten by a gator. BUT, if want a stabile platform..get a wilderness systems tarpon 140. i used to stand up and surf on mine in the gulf! i would watch for mocassins though...still unlikely but they get pissy.
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they say there are gators where we are staying for the mullet toss in orange beach....
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Typically the Alligators frequent the canal areas near Hwy. 59 (both sides), the eastern part of little lagoon, and in Lake Shelby. They are more of a threat to dogs, raccoons, and things living in the water. I kayak around them all the time, and never had any threat from one. Your biggest problem would be in shallow water in a dead end canal where they have no safe or deep retreat. They would most likely be in a panic to get away from you rather than target you.
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wild gators, about zero chance they would bother you
gators in golf ponds or other places heavily frequented by hairless apes (who not coincidentally often bring food with them)...another story unfortunately

there was a kid in slidell this past summer who got his arm ripped off while he was in a popular swimming hole...and from what i understand from the story, the gator had every intention of making a meal out him
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That's cool that they are in the lagoon and dont want to bother me. But, what if I fall off the kayak while one is around? Will I then be in trouble?
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If you fall in just Happy Gilmore that mfer.
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I worked on marsh restoration for a couple of years planting California bulrush, giant cutgrass, and smooth cordgrass for the state of Louisiana. The job required that I jump in to the shallow water and pull myself across the muddy bottom sticking these plants into the mud. Many times alligators and snakes were around. The young gaters are very curious, and will come within inches of your face, but they are not a threat, they just see the commotion and want to come check it out. From my experience the bigger ones just hang back and keep an eye on you. I would get nervous when I spotted a big gater, and then looked back a minute or two later and it was gone. When it comes down to it though alligators are just not aggressive animals. The only time I have ever seen aggression is when a mother was guarding her nest.

As for snakes, water moccassins are fairly aggressive, but you would only have to worry about them if you cornered one up or stepped on it. Like many animals, they prefer to keep their distance, however they have a tendency to hold their ground more than other species of snakes.

There is some sort of water bug that can sting the hell out of you, but the sting doesn't last that long. I must admit it is startling, especially in murky water when you can't tell what it is!!

I say go have fun, and respect the wildlife, but do not fear it!!
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I live on Little Lagoon on the dreaded east end, and I kayak fish a fair amount.

Yes, there are gators up towards the 59 passes as has been mentioned, and april is a dicey time since they are all in mating form. But that said, I've only seen the 4-5 footers past the salt line. The bigger ones stay up closer to Lake Shelby. May is pretty benign. The gators do wander into the lagoon but I don't recall any issues.

Fishing at the pass is reasonably safe. Fishing outside the pass introduces bull sharks, but candidly, I've only been approached once and that was half-hearted. The fishing in and around there is pretty good. I would say excellent. But you need to be reasonably cautious with dead / dying fish. And of course, if they latch on to your stringer, let them have it.

So I guess the net-net is that I haven;t had an issue, my son has been swimming all through there and only seen one gator. So stay in the kayak, keep your wits and it should be fine.
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