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Old 07-25-2013, 05:32 PM
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Default Lake Erie perch fishing, how many minnows? What else for bait?

I hate running out of bait so I always buy a lot and I can't remember the last time I have run out. If I go alone I will get 4 doz/scoops, with 2 of us I will get 7-8doz/scoops. One of my fishing buddies is so cheap that he will get 3doz/scoops for 3 people. He will cut up a normal shiner that I would put on the hook whole into 3 pieces. Then he wonders why he comes up with empty hooks or he catches small ones all the time.

I'm sure you guys use cut bait on occasion. If the perch are biting really good I will cut a piece of belly out of a white perch into a strip about 2" long then put the hook on the very end. That way when your line goes up and down with the waves the strip will look like it's swimming. I catch a lot less perch but it takes a lot to lose the bait and the perch are usually larger. I always fish with 2 rods but when they are biting non-stop I will bait one up with cut bait.

Another fishing buddy pops the eyes out of the perch in the cooler. I think he catches more fish with eye balls than I do with cut bait but the eye balls usually will only catch one fish and then it's gone. Besides that there is just something about sticking a hook through an eye ball that creeps me out. I've tried worms but they usually catch the sheeps and white perch. I've tried Gulp minnows but never caught anything until I cut one in half and just put half if it on the hook. I caught 2 perch on a 1/2 Gulp minnow. A guy I know that fishes in Lake Michigan uses a casting spoon as the sinker and claims he catches a lot of perch on the spoon.

What other things have you guys tried for bait, or any other secrets? I've tried the cat food thing and the motor running but I have no proof that it helped attract fish.

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We always get 3 dozen per person. The place we get them most always gives you more than you ask for. I use 3 stack hooks with a rubber jig on the top hook. We like to get the emerald shinners when available..
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5 scoops for 3 people at Joes Central Basin. 4 scoops if it is just the wife and me.

We have put a lot of shiners back into the lake this year.
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I figure 2 scoops per person. Rarely run out but it gets close sometimes, but I know that depends on the bite that day. On occasion I have better luck with frozen shiners than live for some reason. Have you guys done well with frozen (if you use them at all)?
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I figure 2 scoops per person. Rarely run out but it gets close sometimes, but I know that depends on the bite that day. On occasion I have better luck with frozen shiners than live for some reason. Have you guys done well with frozen (if you use them at all)?
I have used frozen but they get so soft they come off of the hook easily. I had a guy that gave me a great idea to freeze about 20 minnows per bag and open one bag at a time and keep the others frozen until you need them. Great idea and I have some packaged up that way but haven't used them.

We had some shrimp that had been in the freezer to long and were freezer burnt so I tried them for perch. I cut them in half or 1/3's and caught fish until they were all used up. Everything liked them, even caught a couple of catfish while perch fishing. Good way of getting rid of shrimp without throwing them out.

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i usually get about 1.5 scoops per person. a lot depends on where you buy bait. I have a buddy that runs a bait shop and he's always more then generous to me. I've seen other bait shops that literally count each minnow, it seems. belly meat works good. coughed up gobies are like filet mignon to perch though. I always look for them in the cooler.
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i usually get about 1.5 scoops per person. a lot depends on where you buy bait. I have a buddy that runs a bait shop and he's always more then generous to me. I've seen other bait shops that literally count each minnow, it seems. belly meat works good. coughed up gobies are like filet mignon to perch though. I always look for them in the cooler.
I've never tried gobies for perch, I will give that a try. When we fish the rocks for walleye we snag a lot of gobies and I've used them for small mouth bait. The sheeper's hit them so fast a small mouth doesn't have a chance to even bite.

I would rather spend another $5-$10 to make sure we don't run out of bait, looks like you guys agree with that strategy.

I bought these little ice fly's @ Bass Pro that are about 1" long and look a lot like a shiner. They are called the shiner fly. I haven't tried them yet, any of you guys tried them?
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Don't be afraid to cut the larger shiners into pieces; works well and sometimes even works better than a whole minnow.
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Don't be afraid to cut the larger shiners into pieces; works well and sometimes even works better than a whole minnow.
A guy at the OGF forum just posted that he did the same thing. Here is his post:


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"Half minnow perch"

Started off Edgewater in 37Fow and was immediately into farm animals.
Went in front of stadium 40FOw and same thing plus white bass and white perch. Found some good looking marks (finally) in 47 FOW NNW of stadium and started with white perch and white bass. Finally caught a yellow perch and he burped up what looked like bugs so I downsized to half a minnow and stared getting the target fish. By this time the 2 to 3 footer were continuous 3's with a good dose of 4's which made the fishing more work than fun. The water was fishable but stained in close and cleared up in he mid 40's.
StinksBait supplied what looked like dynamite sized emeralds but those picky perch were not interested in the whole shiner.
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I will have to give that a try when the perch seem to have lockjaw.
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Don't be afraid to cut the larger shiners into pieces; works well and sometimes even works better than a whole minnow.
I cut the really big ones into 2 or 3 pieces, but if they aren't real big I will put them on whole. Big minnow usually means bigger perch.
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Perch bite was fast yesterday 7/27 and today 7/28. Got 180 in a little over 2 hrs on Saturday and 180 on Sunday in 3 hours. We cut the minnows in half most times.
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What about wax worms,perch hit good hear in small lakes. Im going in two weeks to erie,will use minnows and going to try wax worms.
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