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Old 04-13-2012, 01:59 PM
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So I shopped around last year and did not buy anything. I had a 20' Sea Ray and am looking to upgrade to a larger cruiser. I am shopping in the $10k to $20k range and am looking for a 25' to 28' cruiser. I have been finding quite a few 250 and 268 Sundancers (late 80s and early 90s) at reasonable prices and wanted to see if there were any opinions. Particularly the 268 with a 7.4L 454. Are these pretty underpowered? We live in Chicago and want something for weekenders with the family. Thanks.
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I always felt the 268 to be too narrow a beam. I like the 80's Searay 270 with V6's. Wide beam, lots of room and not too bad a ride for a boat that size.
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Look for an older Formula PC 26, 27, or 29s are sometimes in that price range. I have a 26 that I got from up there and love it. I'm 6' and the headroom in the cabin makes all the difference.
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I have a 1988 268DA Sundancer and really like it. If you are into trailering, it's about max for going port to port on the weekends.

The beam is a little narrow because they were meant to be trailered without permits. The narrow beam with the deep cut "v" makes them wallow a little side to side, but they are really not bad.

The 270 is about the same length, but a 10ft beam and more difficult to trailer.

My 268 has great sleeping space for overnighting the family, yet fishes great and handles big waves well. It's a great compromise for family and fishing and trailerability to various ports. I'm 6'4" and have plenty of head room down below. Mine has the fridge, kitchenette, dinette, bathroom and aft cabin. It sleeps 5 comfortably.

I have the 330hp 454 big block and she's got plenty of power. The big block or twin 4.3ltrs is the way to go. Do not get the 268 with the small block. Not enough power or rear weight. These boats need rear weight to keep the bow up.

Get a moisture meter and take it with you when you look at these boats. Lots of them have wet transoms/stringers. Check them about 10 inches either side of the transom bracket from the inside of the boat, then check the engine stringers. They will all have some sort of water intrusion, but try to find one that is below 25% on the meter. After buying my boat, I took the motor out and rebuilt the transom and stringer system all the way up to mid-ship. She's a tank now, but she was pretty wet before.

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+1 on the big block.
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Look for something with twins.
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Offshore definitely twins - trailer cruiser a solid single will get you there and back with less maintenance.
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We are looking to do weekend trips Chicago up to Wisonsin and over to Michigan Harbor Country. I am debating between twins and single engine. Do you guys feel strongly that twins would be the way to go?
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It all depends on what you need. A well maintained larger single engine will save you fuel and get you the power you need. Twins give you the confidence that you have back up power if one engine goes down. For me, I keep the BB running like a clock and if a problem arises that can't be fixed on the water, that's what a float plan and Boat U.S. is for...
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I would suggest twins as well. Both for the added security of having 2 in case 1 fails as well as the maneuverability around the dock. A 25ish foot boat with 1 engine would be a handful around the docks in anything but perfect conditions due to its light weight etc. Also if you're planning on coming up here or crossing to MI you are really going to have to keep an eye on the weather on Lake MI. You cannot have a set schedule.

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It all depends on what you need. A well maintained larger single engine will save you fuel and get you the power you need. Twins give you the confidence that you have back up power if one engine goes down. For me, I keep the BB running like a clock and if a problem arises that can't be fixed on the water, that's what a float plan and Boat U.S. is for...
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A few boats ago I had a 270 Searay Sundancer, 10' beam with a single bbc (no trailer). I then wanted a trailer-able boat, so I bought a 268 Searay Weekender, 8'-6" beam with the same bbc. Neither boat ever let me down but as mentioned, maintenance was priority one. Having a single engine can be a concern for some, yet I would commonly fish within 10 miles of shore (usually with a pack of other boats). Based on your intended use and budget, I would certainly consider an older, well kept Searay.
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