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I'm new to the hull truth, but I could use some help. I've been trolling the Fairport Harbor area using planer boards with jet divers, and doing OK. I sold my boat, and I just bought a larger one - and the new boat came with outriggers. These are straight from Florida, 23 feet long outriggers, with the 4 wires and crosses. I'm told that outriggers are much better than planer boards, especially in rougher weather - but I've never used them before, and I can't figure out how to use them (they are in my garage now), the boat is in dry storage. The previous owner never used them. I understand the concept, but I'm trying to figure out how to run multiple lines.
Does anyone know of any instructional video or books? Also, what are your thoughts regarding planer boards vs. outriggers?
reel lucky go on goerge povoromos sit under ask how i bielive he has something onoutriggers i just putaset onmy boat for this coming walleye and sALMON SEason i hate those small planner boards half the time you ont know if you have a fish onletme know if you figure them out im in the same boat as you.thanks
Out riggers will work but I prefer inline planer boards once you get them down you will never look back. I troll for Salmon in Lake MI and run up to 4 inlines per side all differant setups no issues can change any or all of them as I want there are times if I have the room my spread is 800 ft wide if you run dipsey divers you outrigger lines will be right on top of them or worse inside of them. I used to run the big boards with a mast but sold the boards and don't miss it at all my normal spread in deep water is a 300 copper on a inline about 75 to 100ft from the boat a full core on a inline out roughly another 75ft and a 5 color on a inline out another 100 ft and if chasing Steelhead will send a 2 or 3 color on a board out a hundred ft or so past that. There are lots of guys around here that have outriggers none I know of use them.
My buddy runs Outriggers off his 26 Stamas,and prefers them over the big boards and the inlines.
I fished with him a few times on Lake Ontario for salmon,and we ran leadcore,and wire dipsies off the outriggers with no problems.
They are nice when you're fishing in nasty conditions,as you don't have to worry about boards that won't perform well in those conditions.
On my boat,I run the big boards,but also run those inexpensive 16' outriggers from Dot line.They work nice when it's rough.
I would say,if you have the outriggers then use them,but I would also try running the inlines or big boards.
here's a couple sites that may help with the rigging and use of outriggers.
Big Easy - I see in the diagram, the 2 snap swivels, which I have on my outriggers. The thing in between, I'm assuming, is what you attach your line to. How can I run multiple lines (the picture only shows one connector). If I need to attach multiple connectors, how di I reset only one line, without disturbing the other lines that are out?
I have fished outriggers out of Mentor Harbor a lot well until I sold my last boat a Gady White 306. I would use them more often than boards since it was faster to deploy the set-ups and worked way better than boards in rough water. You get more up and down movement with outriggers since they are up high compared to boards that only go with the wave action. I would run multiple lines off of the riggers using downrigger clips on the actual outrigger line since most outrigger set-ups only have one release on them.
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I have a 280 Scout Abaco with outriggers I still use boards in calm water getting me out to the side of the boat much farther than outriggers but outriggers work better in the rougher waters of Lake Erie. Here is a link that helped me set up my outriggers to run multiple lines. Hope it helps. http://www.georgepoveromo.com/nononsenserigger.htm
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reel lucky go on goerge povoromos sit under ask how i bielive he has something onoutriggers i just putaset onmy boat for this coming walleye and sALMON SEason i hate those small planner boards half the time you ont know if you have a fish onletme know if you figure them out im in the same boat as you.thanks
Wow!
But welcome to the forum anyway.....
RL7, Planers are much less expensive, easier to maintain, and have a much farther reach away from the boat.
How many lines do you want to run on each side and how much weight/drag on each.
This is a deciding factor on the number and size of planer boards.
I'm not an expert on how to run multiple lines off an outrigger,as I usually only run them with a single rod off each side.
Normally I run them only when I'm in rough water conditions.I have tried some pinch on downrigger releases,but they didn't work very well.
The article on rigging multiple lines on the George Poveromo site looks interesting though.
I may have to give that a try this year.
GUys I have fished Off Shore inline boards for years in all conditions my 267 Quest and I can stand to fish in. There is never any question if a fish is on if you set them correctly. While it is true they don't alway track well in rough water they do still work. Here is my setup I replace the rear snap for the red snap weight release with a pin in it. The line must be inside the pin this way the board can not come off the line. The front Clip gets varied depending on what I am pulling I use both the medium Black clips and the Heavy Orange clips. Keep the rod tips high enough to hold the line out of the water. I never run a chute rod so everything is set and retreived off the back of the boat. So when setting line you let it out the back then clip on the board and let it out the disired distance then set the rod in the holder and let the board pull it out into place. Set the clicker on the reel and loosen the drag till it just holds the board in place. When you get a fish it will set off the clicker and you will know something is going on grab the rod and begin fighting the fish. If you set the front clip correctly it will release and the board will flip over and go straight back behind the boat. When done you can put the setup right back in it's place without affecting any other rods. I run up to 4 boards per side and at times can be 600 or more ft wide. For spring browns I can send a board all the way to shore if needed. I am sure Outriggers are cool and have their place but inlines are so versatile I would never use Outriggers.
I'm sure you could catch some walleye using outriggers but it CERTAINLY wouldn't be a preferred method, or a recommendation. In other words if you have a boat that already has outriggers, you can probably catch a few with the outriggers - I'd kind of think of it as a novelty...something to do because you have the riggers I guess.
Put another way I'd never recommend someone buy / add outriggers to their boat for walleye fishing.
I guess I can see a limited application more for salmon guys that want to add either a couple leadcore or copper lines to their spread and get some clearance from dipseys / downriggers but ever there I can't imagine recommending for someone to go buy outriggers to add to their boat - it would be more of a situation where if the boat aleady had them and you wanted to figure out out to work them in to your presentation it could probably work.
Inline & "big" boards both have their place. I use both - depending on the boat I'm fishing from, the water conditions, how many lines I'm running, experience level of my crew, what we are fishing with and speeds we are running...
Tony - next step for you would be to get the 280 Scout Abaco set up with a pair of Cisco Planar Reels and a set of Amish Outfitters boards so you can really start catching walleye...LOL - I'll make you a deal - go with this stuff and if after this season you prefer the outriggers I'll refund your money. FYI - invites for the Fishing Seminar will go out this week but put Saturday March 6 on your calendar.
GUys I have fished Off Shore inline boards for years in all conditions my 267 Quest and I can stand to fish in. There is never any question if a fish is on if you set them correctly. While it is true they don't alway track well in rough water they do still work. Here is my setup I replace the rear snap for the red snap weight release with a pin in it. The line must be inside the pin this way the board can not come off the line. The front Clip gets varied depending on what I am pulling I use both the medium Black clips and the Heavy Orange clips. Keep the rod tips high enough to hold the line out of the water. I never run a chute rod so everything is set and retreived off the back of the boat. So when setting line you let it out the back then clip on the board and let it out the disired distance then set the rod in the holder and let the board pull it out into place. Set the clicker on the reel and loosen the drag till it just holds the board in place. When you get a fish it will set off the clicker and you will know something is going on grab the rod and begin fighting the fish. If you set the front clip correctly it will release and the board will flip over and go straight back behind the boat. When done you can put the setup right back in it's place without affecting any other rods. I run up to 4 boards per side and at times can be 600 or more ft wide. For spring browns I can send a board all the way to shore if needed. I am sure Outriggers are cool and have their place but inlines are so versatile I would never use Outriggers.
I also use Offshore inline boards and would X2 what you said. They are very easy to deal with. Even if I had a larger boat I would still use the Offshore boards setup as stated above.
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I'm sure you could catch some walleye using outriggers but it CERTAINLY wouldn't be a preferred method, or a recommendation. In other words if you have a boat that already has outriggers, you can probably catch a few with the outriggers - I'd kind of think of it as a novelty...something to do because you have the riggers I guess.
Put another way I'd never recommend someone buy / add outriggers to their boat for walleye fishing.
I guess I can see a limited application more for salmon guys that want to add either a couple leadcore or copper lines to their spread and get some clearance from dipseys / downriggers but ever there I can't imagine recommending for someone to go buy outriggers to add to their boat - it would be more of a situation where if the boat aleady had them and you wanted to figure out out to work them in to your presentation it could probably work.
Inline & "big" boards both have their place. I use both - depending on the boat I'm fishing from, the water conditions, how many lines I'm running, experience level of my crew, what we are fishing with and speeds we are running...
Tony - next step for you would be to get the 280 Scout Abaco set up with a pair of Cisco Planar Reels and a set of Amish Outfitters boards so you can really start catching walleye...LOL - I'll make you a deal - go with this stuff and if after this season you prefer the outriggers I'll refund your money. FYI - invites for the Fishing Seminar will go out this week but put Saturday March 6 on your calendar.
Steve
Steve,
March 6 is on the calendar. I only use the outriggers in 4’ to 6’ footers if i can run 2 or 4 more rods than my normal 8 and your right i would not buy them ether but they were on the boat so why not. Reel luck7 boat has outriggers already like mine. The rest of the time I am using dipsies almost always and inline boards mostly at night. Big board’s scare me because I have never used them and they don’t seem to be used much in the central basin I think due to the depth usually fished 50' to 60' i don't know good question for the Fishing Seminar. I would like to learn to fish with big boards and add that to the arsenal. The Cisco Planar Reels and a set of Amish Outfitters boards would be nice after I learn to use them and after the auto pilot. I looked at the Garmins like you suggested just not yet.
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Last edited by LakeErieFishing; 02-10-2010 at 08:01 PM.
Big Easy - I see in the diagram, the 2 snap swivels, which I have on my outriggers. The thing in between, I'm assuming, is what you attach your line to. How can I run multiple lines (the picture only shows one connector). If I need to attach multiple connectors, how di I reset only one line, without disturbing the other lines that are out?
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REEL LUCKY
While I prefer boards hands down on Lake MI, I have used outriggers extensively in the FL Keys. To answer your question on how to run multiples...you run multiple "loops" on the outriggers, each has it's own clip. Depending on the length of the outrigger, you can get two to four loops. Each pully has it's own loop with a clip. When the clip releases, you simply bring in the "loop" that has tripped. The problem is that Salmon often won't trip them and the rod won't show the fish is on unless it is fairly large and the sea state is fairly smooth. To solve that problem, try a light rubber band in the clip attached to the line. It won't allow you to let out more line to adjust the distance, but it will guarantee the band will break when most fish hit, releasing the line even though the clip stays closed. The slack though you now have created with the released line gives the fish a chance to get off, so you need to get on the reel and crank as fast as you can to get the slack out asap. Few rookie fisherman are fast to a rod with a fish, so expect to lose many if your crew can't figure out which rod has the fish on it or they all stare at it.
So why boards? It is very easy to see a fish on a small board in most conditions, and we run the board with a rubberband around the clip so it DOES NOT trip. We take it off at the boat. It eliminates the slack issue, so we don't lose fish due to that normally (unless they run at the boat faster than the person reeling it in). We often are running leadcores behind these boards and the weight of the line and the movement of the boat gives us the couple of seconds needed to remove the board without putting slack into the line..
whatever you chose, boards or riggers, just make sure your higher # leadcores and deeper lines are on the inside, so the outside lines will come over them without tangles. You need decent separation, so don't put a 6 color next to an 8 color leadcore. put the 6 next to a 10 and a 8 color next to a 4 or 12 on the other side.
Planer boards vs. outriggers 
