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Old 01-05-2017, 11:54 AM   #21
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As I said on the other thread:

Lot of Cuban and Haitian refugees floating through there trying to get to the Keys (the Cubans to take advantage of the wet foot/dry foot law), so there are regular patrols by both Bahamian and U.S. military looking for both refugees and unscrupulous boat owners trying to make a fast buck off those refugees.

And it also occurs to me that some of those refugees would be happy to play dumb and then take your boat.

It’s not worth the trouble. Go legally or don’t go at all.
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:11 PM   #22
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We have all bent the rules one way or another. Either way sucks cause 95% of us here have done something similar and gotten away with.
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It will all be on the RBDF website and Facebook page soon enough. It'll be like when the USCG posts a picture in Miami in front of a bunch of bales of pot.

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Regardless i feel for those dudes. Not that I support breaking laws but fishing has been around much longer than bounderies and goverment controls.
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Or when they pose with lobsters or other fish taken. IMO looks ridiculous.

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We all know the laws (or should). If you choose to break them you know you're rolling the dice. Yeah it sucks, but if you get nabbed it's on you. Hard part is Cay Sal is so tough to fish legitimately. Course that begs the argument that's the reason it's one of the few remaining special places.

My only problem is that the US has been cooperating with the Bahamians down there to curb smuggling - which is of course fine. But more often than not we're the only ones patrolling the area. If the US is alerting the Bahamians in regards to US fishermen - that doesn't seem right to me.
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Well the charter boat if carrying paying passengers,it will get a double whammy. They cannot legally charter in the Bahamas either. We fish Issac's and West End a lot and you always see boats running across without clearing. Last month my boat was pulled by the BDF. It's easy money for them,so do yourself a favor and clear customs.Cay Sal is a long run, is it worth it ? I would bet they do not think so.
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IF this is all true and they didn't clear then simply put...they know better. You wanna play, you gotta pay.
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Judge much?.....regardless of the circumstances. It's not like he raped or assaulted someone. Nobody was hurt.
You sir are a tool. A keyboard toughguy
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Regardless i feel for those dudes. Not that I support breaking laws but fishing has been around much longer than bounderies and goverment controls.
Without controls, you have these referenced idiots. Live on the edge, fall off the edge....happy landing.
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There guys are waiting to hear the Freeman mono hull debate
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We have all bent the rules one way or another. Either way sucks cause 95% of us here have done something similar and gotten away with.
That doesn't make it right.

They got caught and 95% does not make it OK .

NO WAY A CHARTER BOAT DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE FISHING ILLEGALLY.

They got caught and knew damn well they were Illegal.

You want to bend the rules then be prepared to pay the price.

Cay Sal wouldn't be what it is if every swinging dick could run there without doing the due diligence to get there and fish legally. There is a damn good reason the place is special. It's hard to get to within the laws that are written.
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Whatever you say Francis.

On another note, Cay Sal is not what it used to be. It's not special anymore because it is hit hard by Bahamians, Cubans, Dominicans, and Hatians. Who knows if the Chinese are hitting it as well. Last time i crossed i saw more than 1 old beat up mothership.
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I've not heard a word of this, friends are setting condos this week on the bank so I'm sure they will see something and call. If not the Bahamians are good at posting on their website and in the newspaper.
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Well the charter boat if carrying paying passengers,it will get a double whammy. They cannot legally charter in the Bahamas either. We fish Issac's and West End a lot and you always see boats running across without clearing. Last month my boat was pulled by the BDF. It's easy money for them,so do yourself a favor and clear customs.Cay Sal is a long run, is it worth it ? I would bet they do not think so.
Yes you are allowed to charter in the bahamas from the US. The rule is you can not pick up charter passengers in the bahamas, passengers have to arrive on the original charter boat from the states..
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Yes you are allowed to charter in the bahamas from the US. The rule is you can not pick up charter passengers in the bahamas, passengers have to arrive on the original charter boat from the states..
And, clear customs an obtain the necessary paperwork to go and come from outside the boarders of the USA.

You can't just come and go as you please when you cross boarders unless they don't catch you doing so. If they do you may well be made an example of. The close proximity of the Bahamas makes it look easy for a day trip. Crossing boarders has certain limits of which are non negotiable. You better hope when you get caught your on the soil of the USA.

You have zero rights outside of that.
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At least they weren't on the forum asking for fishing friends to pitch in $150 for cost of trip and then getting busted to top it off.
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And, clear customs an obtain the necessary paperwork to go and come from outside the boarders of the USA.

You can't just come and go as you please when you cross boarders unless they don't catch you doing so. If they do you may well be made an example of. The close proximity of the Bahamas makes it look easy for a day trip. Crossing boarders has certain limits of which are non negotiable. You better hope when you get caught your on the soil of the USA.

You have zero rights outside of that.
I guess we will see how they interpret the law. If your fishing Cay Sal and not clearing when you come back, see what happens if your caught. Either way don't clear and take your chances, like these boats did. Bet it's costs them and they will never do it again.

They don't have their big black books any longer, they have PC to log you.

As for fishing the Bank or Issac's, Memory , I think the enforcement will grow as they want the money and the headlines ! INSIDE FOXHILL..........
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So what's the process after getting busted? A few years ago I HEARD it was 3 days in jail and $10k to get your boat back.
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There guys are waiting to hear the Freeman mono hull debate
They're checking out the new guy in crocs and a salmon colored fishing shirt.
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