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Old 01-24-2014, 08:27 AM
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I suspect they were deployed in the Keys considering the close proximity to Cuba. I doubt Baltimore, Richmond or Washington DC poses the same threat.

Nevertheless, I am not sure how long they have been deployed in the Keys', but it does not make me feel any better about the good 'ole Federal govt deploying new surveillance blimps over the mainland.

Me thinks there is more to these blimps and their intentions than meets the eye.
I wasn't saying that they're not an invasion of privacy. They certainly are. I was just saying that if you choose to live in DC, you gave up any notion of freedom a long time ago.
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They have been in use in south Florida since the 80's. This is all declassified information.
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You can still protect yourself from the egregious invasion by big brother, just get yourself a larger tinfoil hat.
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They've had those in the Florida Keys for decades...
As well as at Fort Huachuca near the border here in southern Arizona. They are tethered and sent up on a long steel cable. Problem was, they could only deploy them on windless days. So, the smugglers would just wait for bad weather days and move all their people, drugs, whatever over the border then virtually undetected.

That said, they are very sophisticated radar and sensor-wise. I have seen footage of what was recorded by one while deployed at 10,000 ft. You could see individual cars traveling on I-10 about 50 miles north of the Fort.
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It seems if any group wanted to take them down they would be an easy target. Why would anyone want to protect DC anyway? OH,,, the paranoid politicians live there.
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These are used in the keys to pick up RF and other communications throughout the entire Caribbean. They are run from a civilian ship with linguist onboard employed by the NSA. All valued information is then sent to their perspective agency. These balloons have a reach of thousands of square miles. From the proposed location they will be able to scan every cell phone call as far away as manhattan. I have first hand knowledge of this operation.
Don't think height will aid in receiving calls over long distances with that low a wattage ver atmosphere conditions unless their using a tower from further distances and bouncing it up from a local tower but i'd sure be interested to hear your theory and willing to learn if you will take the time to explain it . I'm sure things have changed..
Siera vista AZ and Fort Huachuca is where most of the testing of these is done but if I'm wrong Joey let me know..
From low altitude (10,000 feet) if they are equipped with camera capability and i'm sure they will be, the blimps that are used in training at Fort Huachuca can tell if you brushed your teeth or not if the weather is clear.
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It's not a theory.
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It's not a theory.
Some high tech stuff right there.
I would never guessed they could do it without boosting the signal from that distance.
Glad their on our side..
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No doubt they have been deployed in the Caribbean for years not all of the surface vessel are civilian the US Navy keeps electronic ships docked in SA ports.
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Hi tech satellites and land based radar systems don't work anymore so we're going back to the Hindenburg days?

Looks like that is going to cause a huge problems to flight plans.

This country is screwed.
Just a technicality (it is the Internet) but the Hindenberg was an airship not a blimp. Huge difference.
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These are used in the keys to pick up RF and other communications throughout the entire Caribbean. They are run from a civilian ship with linguist onboard employed by the NSA. All valued information is then sent to their perspective agency. These balloons have a reach of thousands of square miles. From the proposed location they will be able to scan every cell phone call as far away as manhattan. I have first hand knowledge of this operation.
I have no clue to your "first hand" knowledge, but it is obvious you have no idea how cellular systems operate.
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Just a technicality (it is the Internet) but the Hindenberg was an airship not a blimp. Huge difference.
As opposed to a dirigible or a zeppelin? I know, I know... technicalities. Honestly though, I *do* know the difference. I was about 5 years old when my dad was first stationed at Lakehurst, NJ. The US Navy was still flying blimps then, in the early 60's. I was always fascinated by them and often got to watch them land and take off while my dad was stationed there.

Blimps are basically big bags of gas under pressure. The pressure of the gas is what keeps them inflated -- a balloon, if you will. Airships have a rigid structure (framework) that gives them their shape, then are filled with gas. There's your difference.
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As opposed to a dirigible or a zeppelin? I know, I know... technicalities. Honestly though, I *do* know the difference. I was about 5 years old when my dad was first stationed at Lakehurst, NJ. The US Navy was still flying blimps then, in the early 60's. I was always fascinated by them and often got to watch them land and take off while my dad was stationed there.

Blimps are basically big bags of gas under pressure. The pressure of the gas is what keeps them inflated -- a balloon, if you will. Airships have a rigid structure (framework) that gives them their shape, then are filled with gas. There's your difference.
While we are being all technical and sh!t, a further clarification is in order.

A blimp is a non-rigid airship. The thing in the picture above is neither, it's a tethered balloon(no propulsion).

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Some high tech stuff right there.
I would never guessed they could do it without boosting the signal from that distance.
Glad their on our side..
Cell phone frequencies are reused from cell to cell, at 10,000 feet it is a clusterf****.
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Your taxpayers dollars hard at work..... Is that a tumor underneath? Hope it pops and does fart circles around DC.
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As opposed to a dirigible or a zeppelin? I know, I know... technicalities. Honestly though, I *do* know the difference. I was about 5 years old when my dad was first stationed at Lakehurst, NJ. The US Navy was still flying blimps then, in the early 60's. I was always fascinated by them and often got to watch them land and take off while my dad was stationed there.

Blimps are basically big bags of gas under pressure. The pressure of the gas is what keeps them inflated -- a balloon, if you will. Airships have a rigid structure (framework) that gives them their shape, then are filled with gas. There's your difference.
There is the matter of size. Hindenberg was about 850' long. Then there was the matter of several million cu ft of hydrogen as well
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Technically speaking you all understood my point.
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"The primary mission . . . is to track airborne objects," the Army said in the letter to The Post. "Its secondary mission is to track surface moving objects such as vehicles or boats. The capability to track surface objects does not extend to individual people."
The Gov't can track individual people with orbiting spy satellites, but not from a balloon at 10,000 feet? Right......
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you could hit one with a 30.06?
Would it scoot around the sky like in a Bug Bunny cartoon or just slowly wither up and fall from the sky?
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Interesting. Since when is it the ARMY's mission to detect low flying aircraft and/or missles? And at 10,000 feet, how much warning would there truely be? Meaning at 10,000 feet, how far is the "horizon"? Because that is as far as it could see.
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