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Old 01-06-2013, 01:32 PM
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I own a 15-22 and have shot the mossberg, and in my opinion the mossberg is not even in the same league. You really can't compare the two.

Same feelings here.. The mossberg jams constantly.

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I am also a very happy owner of an 15-22. It sees salt air frequently (cause I'm so salt life) and it's not rust prone. Besides my Colt Defender it's my favorite gun that I own.
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Thanks all! M&P it is, but I really should not be spending the $$ right now, but I am concerned that they may not be available if this ban goes through. was in 2 shops today. One had the Mossberg and a 499 price tag. I told him that I thought that was outrageous as I have seen it on Buds for less than $300 - he told me that I was crazy - that it must have been a different gun. Then another shop that had both last week, has no more Mossbergs but 3 M & P on the shelf. wants $550. I may be back this week
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.22's are fun and cheap. I just bought an HnK MP5 SD before all this madness started for $500 out the door at a gun show. Came with one 25rd mag. Now I can't find spare mags anywhere. I'm stuck with one mag for the time being. If they do any bans I really hope the leave .22's out of it.
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located a M & P today at a great price - 469.00. did not have time to purchase it and go through all of the paperwork, but they agreed to hold it with a deposit and I will be back in the AM. They also had the Mossberg's at 319.00, but the salesman told me I was crazy to even compare.

Thanks for all of the help! Now if I can only find some ammo
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Did you take a look at a ruger 10/22? Cheap and good fun.....

The M&P is solid though......
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Did you take a look at a ruger 10/22? Cheap and good fun.....

The M&P is solid though......
Apples and oranges. It's a great gun, but good luck finding one right now. None to be had in this area anyway.
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OK - I have the rifle, now the ammo question. With the current craziness in regards to .22LR and .223; what ammo is ok to use?

I know that everyone says to use the good stuff, but it is not available anywhere at present - so what is all of the good stuff?
(CCI, etc.)

Is WinchesterX 40 gr considered good enough to use in this gun? My experience with Winchester ammo in my pistols has been good. I regularly use their white box FMJ in my 9 MMs and and have had no issues (no FTF or FTE) and one of my 9's, the LC9 is fairly temperamental when it comes to cheap ammo.

What other brands and "models" are good? How is Aguila? - seems to be fairly available in "reasonable" priced bulk purchases.

I used to (long time ago competitively shoot 22 Target matches) and the premier ammo was Eley. It was very expensive. I see it is still readily available, but I am not prepared to pay those prices for 22LR, but I now see that they have a budget line that is less than .10/rd.. Reading further it says made in Mexico under license by Eley at the same factory that makes Aguila - any good?

I am looking for ammo that will work well with this rifle with minimal issues and NO DAMAGE to the gun. Suggestions?
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OK - I have the rifle, now the ammo question. With the current craziness in regards to .22LR and .223; what ammo is ok to use?

I know that everyone says to use the good stuff, but it is not available anywhere at present - so what is all of the good stuff?
(CCI, etc.)

Is WinchesterX 40 gr considered good enough to use in this gun? My experience with Winchester ammo in my pistols has been good. I regularly use their white box FMJ in my 9 MMs and and have had no issues (no FTF or FTE) and one of my 9's, the LC9 is fairly temperamental when it comes to cheap ammo.

What other brands and "models" are good? How is Aguila? - seems to be fairly available in "reasonable" priced bulk purchases.

I used to (long time ago competitively shoot 22 Target matches) and the premier ammo was Eley. It was very expensive. I see it is still readily available, but I am not prepared to pay those prices for 22LR, but I now see that they have a budget line that is less than .10/rd.. Reading further it says made in Mexico under license by Eley at the same factory that makes Aguila - any good?

I am looking for ammo that will work well with this rifle with minimal issues and NO DAMAGE to the gun. Suggestions?
Your owners' manual will tell you what S&W recommends and doesn't recommend.

I shoot CCI standard velocity. No issues with them. They're about $30 for a brick of 500.

I have put one of the Winchester 333 boxes through it and had 3 of them jam/misfeed.
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here's my experience, YMMV

thunderbolt & golden bullet, JUNK...dirty and tons of FTF/FTE
CCI mini mag, better, cleaner, but still an occasional jam
CCI AR Tactical, best...clean, easy, accurate, never a FTF/FTE in about 500 rnds so far

mako 234 is correct, the manual names certain brands specifically to avoid
otherwise, you'll have to buy a few boxes and experiment

http://www.walmart.com/ip/CCI-22-LR-...Count/21556265
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I've heard Aquila is "dirty"
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Thanks. The manual is fairly limited it what it states to use. Of course it states not to use any ammo without the 22LR designation and not to use different calibers even if they fit into the gun. It states to NOT USE CCI .22 LR Stinger BUT ONLY IF you have the Performance Center Model - which I do not have. The only "recommended" ones are: CCI Standard Velocity, CCI Mini-Mag, Aguila Super Extra (both standard and high velocity), Federal American Eagle, Federal GameShock, and Winchester Super X High Velocity. But they also state to use .22 LR that meets SAAMI specifications, but they do not state recommended velocity, etc.
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Shoot anything you want, makes no difference. Some get the gun dirtier than others, so what spray it out with brake cleaner when your done.
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Marlin 009....Bill Jackson's in St. Petersburg (9501 US 19 N) has TONS of ammo, all types, in stock..... was there, using the range Weds.....shelves are full, lots of back stock...I know them, used to work there....they stocked up before the election (been there, done that), so the Newtown situation wasn't really a big deal there when it comes to a rush on inventory. Call them to see if they have what you need, (727/576-4169) ask for gun shop...pretty knowledgeable bunch, ask for Mark or Joseph if you can get them. It's only an hours drive from you, or less via the X-Way......
And no, I do not work there any more, so not hawking for them.....not the cheapest, but fair enough. Range use (unlimited time) is $10 if you buy ammo.
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Marlin 009....Bill Jackson's in St. Petersburg (9501 US 19 N) has TONS of ammo, all types, in stock..... was there, using the range Weds.....shelves are full, lots of back stock...I know them, used to work there....they stocked up before the election (been there, done that), so the Newtown situation wasn't really a big deal there when it comes to a rush on inventory. Call them to see if they have what you need, (727/576-4169) ask for gun shop...pretty knowledgeable bunch, ask for Mark or Joseph if you can get them. It's only an hours drive from you, or less via the X-Way......
And no, I do not work there any more, so not hawking for them.....not the cheapest, but fair enough. Range use (unlimited time) is $10 if you buy ammo.
Thanks for the tip. It's been a while since I've been there, it's always fun to just walk around and check out the store. Pretty unique. I'll check it out.
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From the owners manual.stingers can be used in the rifles which do not have performance center below the ejection port. Thus are left blank. Standard model rifles.
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Get a bunch of small 50rd boxes of different ammo and go shoot it. You will find the one you and the gun like the most this way.
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I just got done shooting this afternoon. Prior to today all I had was Remington Golden Bullets, and was using them. While it is not one of the recommended brands it did shoot ok.
But I was able to get the Federal American Eagle recently, 2400 rds worth , and shot it today also. I noticed a difference between the two, and really liked the American Eagle. The Remington golden Bullets will be relegated to my bolt action Savage until they're gone. IMO, the American Eagle gets for the 15-22.
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The Remington Golden is one of the one the manual specifically states NOT to use
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The Remington Golden is one of the one the manual specifically states NOT to use
Aren't those the ones where the slug shakes in the casing?

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