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Old 07-12-2010, 11:01 AM
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I am really pissed. Over the last 10 or so years piece by piece, I built an entire set of P-C 19.2v tools. Trim saw, 2 different drills, reciprocating saw, sabre or jig saw, router. I got a charger & 2 batteries with each piece except the jig saw (which was like $175 without battery).. The batteries don't last worth sh!t, probably have thrown 6 of them out & replaced with the newer 'better' ($70ea) design. ALL of the original chargers died, bought two newer 'better' ones now their dead and I can't get one anywhere! They are discontinued! Really pisses me off. I'm going to put a this sh!t on a table and take a picture and ebay it. Bitch to have to go buy all this crap again, but one thing is certain, it won't say Porter Cable on it.
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Replace it with a combination of two brands; The Makita lithium ion drill and impact are real workhorses if you get the more expensive of the two versions. The rest of the stuff can all be Ryobi, so if it dies, you toss it. Their batteries are not expensive and they have a good life span. I have a pair of Ryobi batteries that are 4 years old and are working great.

I build a lot of shipping crates, so I use the Makita impact to put them together with drywall screws and the impact does an amazing job with them. The Makita stuff recharges in 15 minutes!
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I stopped buying PC when Home Depot bought them out.

DeWalt is in my cordless bags now.
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I stopped buying PC when Home Depot bought them out.

DeWalt is in my cordless bags now.
Dewalt is just over priced by about tripple. My buddy was Mr Dewalt and thats all he would ever buy. So we both need a cordless drill and he purchased another DeWalt and I got the Craftman same volts for 1/3 the price. I used my craftman a little more then his Dewalt and we both replaced them at about the same time. He now has a craftmen in his bag. Not saying they are better but for the money why buy Dewalt drills.
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I am really pissed. Over the last 10 or so years piece by piece, I built an entire set of P-C 19.2v tools. Trim saw, 2 different drills, reciprocating saw, sabre or jig saw, router. I got a charger & 2 batteries with each piece except the jig saw (which was like $175 without battery).. The batteries don't last worth sh!t, probably have thrown 6 of them out & replaced with the newer 'better' ($70ea) design. ALL of the original chargers died, bought two newer 'better' ones now their dead and I can't get one anywhere! They are discontinued! Really pisses me off. I'm going to put a this sh!t on a table and take a picture and ebay it. Bitch to have to go buy all this crap again, but one thing is certain, it won't say Porter Cable on it.

Why do you need everything to be cordless?
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First off, yes PC cordless tools do indeed suck.

Now, what brand will depend on your use and need. If you are a professional, and want professional results, then use what pro's use - Panasonic. If you are the average home owner, it really doesn't matter.

I too wonder, why everything cordless?
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Why do you need everything to be cordless?
It will not be this time around. When I was refurbing the house and living here year round the tools got used. The tools will only get used occasionally from now on. Just irks the piss out of me that I no longer have a good drill, router, hammer drill, or jig saw. I still have good wired circular saws & a great old Sawzall thats almost as old as I am. The Porter Cables I bought were nice machines, they worked really well, powerful, balanced, and I paid dam good money for every piece. It should have lasted forever with the amount I need to do. Now to build my Whalers inside I either have to borrow tools or go drop $600+ on a drill, router and jig saw or buy junk.
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I don't know if they repair chargers, but this outfit, http://www.mtobattery.com/STORE/ rebuilds rechargeable battery packs for tools and other cordless stuff, for a third of what a new one cost. And you can spec a higher capacity battery than the OEM that came with the tool.

I sent them 4 Makita batteries that wouldn't hold a charge anymore, and went to a better grade battery. They did a good job, and for not much more money than maybe one new Makita battery would cost.
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Replace it with a combination of two brands; The Makita lithium ion drill and impact are real workhorses if you get the more expensive of the two versions. The rest of the stuff can all be Ryobi, so if it dies, you toss it. Their batteries are not expensive and they have a good life span. I have a pair of Ryobi batteries that are 4 years old and are working great.

I build a lot of shipping crates, so I use the Makita impact to put them together with drywall screws and the impact does an amazing job with them. The Makita stuff recharges in 15 minutes!
I'm not a pro, but I like Makita products. I have two of their drills. I have found that Makita gives you a really strong product at an affordable price.

Milwaukee is awesome, but I can't justify the price given the fact that I'm not a pro.

BTW, not all cordless products are created equal. I have a cheap 19.2v Craftsman. A contractor that was helping me with a project had a 14v Milwaukee. That Milwaukee had way more torque than the Craftsman, even though the Craftsman was rated 5 more volts. BTW, I think Craftsman electric power tools are junk.

You get what you pay for when it comes to tools.

Sorry to hear about your misfortune with Porter Cable and thanks for the heads up. To show my support to a fellow THTer, I will now officially boycott that brand. Just like I have with Tracker Marine products.

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I like my Bosch stuff. some of it is actually made in SWITZERLAND! Batteries hold up ok..all my chargers still work.
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As a guy who used to work with the tools day in and day out I can tell you I will only buy Milwaukee products- they can take a serious beating.

Every Bosch drill I have had ended up burned up or on fire, I have not had any luck with them.
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Just for the record, Home Depot does not own Porter Cable. They were bought by Delta and now I think you can only buy PC at Lowes. Home Depot does not carry them at all
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I know about the battery fixin places.. CaptWill, I used that guy you recommended before for my laptop battery I think.. The issue is the charger, I can't find anyone who has them or fixes them.. Not to mention I have already bought at least two new chargers, they don't last more than a couple months.
I'm done with it, sold the router to a bud that has everything else for $25 today (I used it maybe 3X and paid like $200) and the rest of the set is on ebay now http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...STRK:MESELX:IT If I can't get $50 in the trash it'll go

It's behind me now and can't piss me off any more
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Never use PC cordless tools, but I like the electric tools. The ones I own are older and still take a beating. I buy DeWalt because it does take a fall and keeps running and the impact (which I dearly love) has alot of torque. I do have to admit, I prefer the NiCad over the LI power. NiCad lasts longer but the lithium is lighter. I'll stick to longer life. Panasonic has some good cordless tools I have to give it to them there. I also love my Milwaukee tools as well. They never die (all electric).
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For the price, I don't believe there is a better 18V drill motor than a Hitachi. I thought I lost mine about a year ago. I decided to do one more sweep of the house before I went to buy a new one. I found it under the deck in a 5 gallon bucket. Can you guess what else was in the bucket? Bingo!! 4.9 gallons of water. I almost went and bought a new one anyway but decided to give it a shot first. I took it apart and bathed it in WD-40. Let it dry, charged the battery and off it went. Still using it today. It runs great.
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I stopped buying PC when Home Depot bought them out.

DeWalt is in my cordless bags now.
Dewalt is Porter cable now. Try calling them you'll find out, they are one in the same. and yes Porter Cable batteries and chargers suck
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I have an 18v Porter Cable battery drill. I like it for the convenience when working on places like the roof of a house, etc. If I need real power, I use my 1/2 hp Craftsman corded drill. All my other power tools are corded.

I did blow the PC charger once when I put the battery in it first before plugging it into the A.C. outlet. I found the original charger at a lower cost from a vendor on Amazon.com.
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get a battery charger from the rc hobby world.
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Sorry to hear about your experience but I don't think you can blackball the entire product line. I've had a Porter Cable palm sander for close to 20 years, the thing is awesome, works like new even though it's been beat on.

The only cordless tool I have is my DeWalt 14.4 drill. For everything else I like a cord.
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