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Old 02-24-2010, 07:30 PM
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Sea World just aint right. Very sad for all involved. Unfortunately nothing is likely to change.
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I saw on Greta tonight that homicide detectives are investigating. Is there a law now against whales attacking their trainers?
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replying to a few above. did it really kill before? i heard that from a friend. also was talking to some coworkers recently about even jumping in with dolphins. sure, i know flipper, but they are alot more comfortable in their environment than i am, and i was a competitive swimmer , obviously no comparison. suppose they decide to wig out for whatever reason, im sure i'd be 'in the way'. we've seen the vids of them taking down great whites with relative ease...

the power of some of these animals is just amazing, of course feel bad for all involved. kind of reminds me of the guy that went to love with the grizzlys....
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Did trainer slip into killer whale tank or was she pulled in?
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/25/flo...ex.html?hpt=C1

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What side of the fence will these people be on?
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That's sad for the little kids that saw it. I equate the trainer to the guy that tried to live with the grizzly bears to prove they were friendly in some small way. When you are around large preditory animals there is a danger. I don't care if they are in the wild or in captivity and "trained".
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replying to a few above. did it really kill before? i heard that from a friend. also was talking to some coworkers recently about even jumping in with dolphins. sure, i know flipper, but they are alot more comfortable in their environment than i am, and i was a competitive swimmer , obviously no comparison. suppose they decide to wig out for whatever reason, im sure i'd be 'in the way'. we've seen the vids of them taking down great whites with relative ease...

the power of some of these animals is just amazing, of course feel bad for all involved. kind of reminds me of the guy that went to love with the grizzlys....
Twice apparently. How you still use a whale that has had a taste for blood (twice no less) is beyond me. That's just plain stoooopid. Turn it loose or kill it.
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That is a frightening video. Why not inject the animal at that point with a huge dose of tranq?
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any fish that has "killer" associated with any part of its name I would not want to be in the same tank... my prayers go out to the family, and I don't blame the animal one bit, it only did what it was created to do. its time to free it now. they are not some toy..
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Keeping a 12,000 lb whale in one of those tanks for 30 years is like keeping a golden retriever in a bathtub for its whole life. Maybe worse. Whales are used to roaming further.
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I'm very curious about the Orca's behavior before the incident. I would think the trainers that spend a large portion of the professional careers with a specific animal could sense that the animal was getting agitated or overly playful. There must have been warning signs or indications that the animal was a potential threat that day. Just like you know what kind of mood your dog is in the trainer should have had a sense that there was something wrong.

I think you will find a mistake was made by either the trainer or the management of SeaWorld. An investigation will probably show that at some time prior to the accident unusual behavior was noticed and either discounted as odd but not threatening or simply ignored because there was a show scheduled.

God bless the families that have to live through this experience.
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That is a frightening video. Why not inject the animal at that point with a huge dose of tranq?
Or better yet a bang stick to the head.

I feel bad for the trainer and all involved. When will these people learn that keeping whales or other intelligent marine mammals in these tiny tanks is a recipe for disaster? Similarly it's like elephants at the circus and the stories of an otherwise docile elephant going bizerk at a performance killing the trainer and audience members, the only difference here is that the police gun it down. These family oriented social animals like this that by nature are accustomed to traveling hundreds or even thousands of miles are cooped up most of the time in small quarters,,, it's a ticking time bomb.
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I'm very curious about the Orca's behavior before the incident. I would think the trainers that spend a large portion of the professional careers with a specific animal could sense that the animal was getting agitated or overly playful. There must have been warning signs or indications that the animal was a potential threat that day. Just like you know what kind of mood your dog is in the trainer should have had a sense that there was something wrong.

I think you will find a mistake was made by either the trainer or the management of SeaWorld. An investigation will probably show that at some time prior to the accident unusual behavior was noticed and either discounted as odd but not threatening or simply ignored because there was a show scheduled.

God bless the families that have to live through this experience.
The Whale was sold to Sea World a few years ago from a place in BC. It was sold with Restrictions, "It should be used for breeding only, not show" From what I heard the place in BC had some problems with it.
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would you get in a tank with a killer whale..trained my ars.. these things are allot smarter then you think.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWsN63PRCW8
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This is awful for her family, the guests who witnessed the attack and sea world. This whale is a male and is used for breeding and it has been involved in other attacks. My uneducated guess is maybe this whale was being playful, but whale dont have arms so they grab with their mouth and into the water they go. Having been to sea world and sat through the shamu shows and also the dolphin shows, I must say it is incredible what these trainers do with these animals and the control they have over the fish and the apparent relationship with these ridiculously huge mammals. Also, i am not positive but i don't think an animal raised in captivity or kept in captivity and hand fed by humans for numerous years could survive in the wild.
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From the video "after a short time, she was back in the water with the whale". You can't fix stupid.

If the trainer knew the history of this whale, then she took her risk voluntarily. I'm guessing she did. I never understood the dying doing what you love thing. That would be nice, I just hope I'm really old, and it wasn't because I was an idiot.
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I saw on Greta tonight that homicide detectives are investigating. Is there a law now against whales attacking their trainers?
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Supposedly the whale grabbed her ponytail in its mouth while she was "mugging it up" with him and dragged her into the pool. None of the reports of the 3 people it has killed indicated that it tried to eat them.
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She should have never wore that mackerel colered wet suit
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