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So because I have 2 monitoring companies that are small and not the likes of Brinks or ADT watching over 19M worth of property I'm at risk? Someone sure as heck calls: a) the residence first b) me second c) next contact on the list or fire, police, heating contractor as specified third.
You're frickin crazy.
I would sign up with you. Why would I do that? You would not only monitor my house, you would lead the assault if I ran into problems.
No one is suggesting (unless I missed something) a Mom & Pop monitoring service
Oops! Then, my mistake -- my apologies.
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We are suggesting a Mom & Pop installation and service firm
Most Mom & Pops outsource their monitoring to large monitoring centers and they make a commission on the referral. It is a valid question to ask of a firm how they handle their monitoring
Conversely, Brinks, ADT, etc may have their own monitoring service, but their installation & service is terrible.
I'll go one better and say AVOID any and all ADT panel hardware in your home. ADT panels can only be monitored by ADT, cannot be serviced, programmed or maintained by the homeowner, required paying ADT to come to your home to do it.
So because I have 2 monitoring companies that are small and not the likes of Brinks or ADT watching over 19M worth of property I'm at risk?
If you are not a certified alarm monitoring facility you potentially are a risk. You would not be a consideration for alarm monitoring by anyone except the ill-informed.
Simple question: why would you choose not to be certified?
My house (built in 01) has some type of system installed but I've never subscribed to any monitoring. I have one key pad by the front door and some type of control box in one of the closets. All the windows have sensors on them but none of the doors appear to have them. I also have a motion detector in the living room. I'm not sure if this was a half ass install since none of the doors are wired.
I want the system fixed and start monitoring but I don't have a home phone line. Just use cells but do have broadband internet. I'd really like to avoid paying for a phone line just for the security system.
Should I go with an ADT type company? Anything to ask about or look out for? Can the system run through my internet line?
OK - you want to find out what you have? Turn on the alarm, wait until it sets, then open an exterior door. do it door by door and you will find out they have a sensor.
If you are not a certified alarm monitoring facility you potentially are a risk. You would not be a consideration for alarm monitoring by anyone except the ill-informed.
Simple question: why would you choose not to be certified?
I'm very sure of who I use.
__________________ 2003 Boston Whaler 255 Conquest w/ twin 200 HPDI's
I've never been a racist. I don't like the white half either.
I have a great story I literally heard today at the office. My EA told me she had a national firm come to her house last night and give her a bid for a security system. She described the layout and the alarms they were recommending. The idiots told her they wanted to install a motion detector in the third floor hallway to cover the upper landing. I asked her "is there anyway your kids could walk out of their bedrooms to go to the bath once the alarm was set up. She looked at me and said "no". I told her to call the morons and tell them to shove their recommendations up their bungholes.
My alarm system was installed by a local mom&pop company with a few decades of experience and a staff that had been with them for a very long time. They did a great job....so great I swear our cat could set off the alarm if it farted in the place.
I am in complete agreement the install should be done by experts, not some doucherocket that just got a job at Brinks last week.
You must drive past my house to get the prize at the top of the hill.
Never mind the dog. He's just a retard.
Beware of manager. He's just crazy.
Glad you saw the root of my post.
I got the the root alright.....a hand around would be appreciated next time.
I tossed out my initial comment based on my experience mom & pops can be either outstanding or no different than big retarded corporations that don't have a clue. I should have done a better job qualifying my blather.
Absolutely disagree with the suggestion to avoid the large, national companies and instead using a small, "mom and pop" outfit.
It shows an incredible amount of ignorance, even from someone with 35 years in the industry!!!
You have made some grave assumptions, Eyeball. Although I did suggest that the OP find a local M&P shop with a caring owner, I ALSO said that regional or national c/s monitoring companies, even mentioned one (C.O.P.S in N.J.) that is of the highest level of competence and service, is the way to go. You jumped in a little too quick, my friend.
At least Tireless Mist-Rest and and Elusive got it.
__________________ Capt Will, 2002 G/W 282 Sailfish, F225's
USCG Master, 50 Ton; Towing endorsement
Indian River, De
Get a good local company to install it and ask who they suggest for monitoring.
A "free" system isn't. The increased monitoring fees and add ons will eventually make up for the "free" part.
15% is about the max I have seen on homeowners discounts. "No, Mr and Mrs homeowner, the insurance discount will NOT pay for the system in insurance savings in 3 years".
Get a cell phone backup. We have had several claims lately where the lines were cut and the local siren was disabled.
If some jackleg shows up on your porch asking if you have a cell phone backup, say "yes". Then get a cell phone backup. If you say "no", guess what. They know you don't have a cell phone backup. See above.
__________________ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I'm just glad my experience shows thru my humor at times when I do know WTF I'm talking about. That said, I never have a closed mind.
FWIW. You can forget those gay signs they want to sell you. Those will only put the BG on alert. I prefer the Gomer Pyle method of "surprise surprise surprise".
Land line phone cable should be in steel if at all possible when reachable from the ground. Cell back up can be a "fake" antenna for fooling them. Bottom line is if they want in they're getting in. You hope they just look at the work involved and the exposure if being seen or caught and move to the unarmed guy next door.
Don't leave the extra car in the driveway with the garage door remote or built in push button on the visor. Crackheads ain't all the stupid.
__________________ 2003 Boston Whaler 255 Conquest w/ twin 200 HPDI's
I've never been a racist. I don't like the white half either.
Make sure that the central station being used is UL listed for the reciept of ALL signals being sent from your residence. That includes burg alarms, and fire alarms.
UL specifications call for minimum manning requirements 24/7, backup power, hardened construction, etc.
Also find out who gets notified if the central station goes "out of service." No matter how long they are down.
FWIW. You can forget those gay signs they want to sell you. Those will only put the BG on alert.
Maybe it depends on where you are -- my local PD said those signs are very effective because most burglaries are done by high school kids or similar. Per the PD, the little turds prefer to hit the houses without those signs. They also avoid the houses with obvious external video cameras.
I hate the fact those signs are free advertising for the alarm monitoring company. I think the best thing you can do is go out at night and steal your neighbor's sign and stick it in your front yard.
I like to sleep with the windows open at night in the summer as to running the air and have wondered if these systems are configured to this type of routine.
Most systems will allow you to bypass zones (windows, doors, motion detectors). You will want to plan this for the the installation putting the windows you wish to keep open (your BR) on 1 zone and others on a different zone (so they are not bypassed). Don't bypass the kids windows (if applicable)
You can forget those gay signs they want to sell you. .
Here is a security sign I have inside my workshop....this door leads into the garage. I think it makes the point I am trying to convey. Given the poor clusters I think any crook will realize they will get hit and die a painful long term bleed out.
I like to sleep with the windows open at night in the summer as to running the air and have wondered if these systems are configured to this type of routine.
When we had a customer who wanted to sleep with the window open, we would install the concealed mag contact behind the window track, (side) instead of the sill, then install a second magnet positioned such that the window had to be fully closed, or opened to a predetermined point of about 4 to 6" (second mag position). If an intruder opened the window further, the system would trip. The other option is to have the bottom window fully closed, and open the top section for ventilation, but have a stop, preventingit from being opened (pulled lower) than a predetermined amount.
This obviously works only for double-hung windows. Casements can be set up in a similar way using a wide-gap contact, and selected positioning; window opened further than preset amount trips alarm.
This is custom work, and is very reliable when done right. There are also other options which we have used, such as laced screens. The window itself can be opened to any point, and can be of any type. The alarm trips when the screen is either removed or cut. We had these screens custom made, and the wire laced through the screen fabric is virtually invisible.
There are many things that can be done if you are willing to pay for custom work.
__________________ Capt Will, 2002 G/W 282 Sailfish, F225's
USCG Master, 50 Ton; Towing endorsement
Indian River, De
Crackheads ain't all the stupid. 
