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Old 10-18-2009, 06:57 PM
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Default Chest freezer ice maker.. Any ideas?

I am looking to put a freezer in my garage and want to be able to make ice for off shore trips. I am thinking a chest freezer would be the best option to hold a couple hundred pounds of ice but I do not see chest style freezers with an ice maker? Any ideas out there about how to find something like this?

I do not think I wat to go with a traditional style ice maker because I live in Central Florida and the heat would be brutal on it in the summer. I am sure my electic bill would probably suffer and void any savings I might get from making my own.



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Stand ups that are all freezer are available with ice makers built in.
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Takes up quite a bit of freezer room, but I used to make block ice in my chest freezer. Put water in 2 gal rectangular pails in the freezer. In 2 days I would have 5 ice blocks. Hit the pails with water and the blocks slide right out. Medium chest freezer is around 200 bucks.

Ice machine is a lot nicer ......but.................
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Takes up quite a bit of freezer room, but I used to make block ice in my chest freezer. Put water in 2 gal rectangular pails in the freezer. In 2 days I would have 5 ice blocks. Hit the pails with water and the blocks slide right out. Medium chest freezer is around 200 bucks.

Ice machine is a lot nicer ......but.................

Both good sugestions but....

I would go with ice blocks but my boat has the fish holds in the floor in the bow. I think these things flying around would destroy somehting?

I would even go with a stand up but I am thinking it woudl be hard to store large amounts of ice.
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Get yourself a cheap little 15 cu. ft freezer, a handful of 5 gal. pails (to make ice), a good heavy sledge hammer and make yourself a wooden box of some sort so you can beat on the ice.

IMO smashed ice from blocks last longer then cubed ice does.
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Both good sugestions but....

I would go with ice blocks but my boat has the fish holds in the floor in the bow. I think these things flying around would destroy somehting?

I would even go with a stand up but I am thinking it woudl be hard to store large amounts of ice.
Get a restaurant style ice maker.. the industrial kind. They don't have refrigeration so the bill won't be as high as you think. Keep in mind that ice sublimes and if you just filled a freezer up with ice and left it that way, the oldest ice will be clinging together, shrinking in size, and turning into big bricks. Also keep in mind that any water that makes it to the bottom might freeze and crack the freezer... they aren't designed to hold that kind of load and just have flimsy plastic liners. My neighbor has an industrial icemaker in his garage he got from his work. It doesn't run that much for him, and we're in Charleston... comparable temperatures
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I use cat litter pails and 2 liter bottles in chest freezer you described. The ice in the pails we break up and the 2 liter bottles stay whole and get refrozen after every trip. Just dont fill the bottles to full they crack, dont ask me how I know this.

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I neve could figure out why you don't see chests set up to accept a icemaker... That would be the way, not doubt.

I had a 270lb Manitwoc with a 500lb bin with a few of my fishing buddies... It was NOT cheap to run, water and electric was between $75 and $100 a month. Worse than that, in the dog days of summer it was very ineffective. The 270lbs per day drops to maybe 120 or so. It was very convenient, but it never stops running, never. The partners for different reasons little by little didn't need it any more so we sold it. If I were to do it over for just myself, I wouldn't.. I would buy a chest freezer from Sams or someplace and cut a deal with the ice house, I'm sure they'd deliver a freezer full wholesale. Especially in Florida
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I used to use the smller size drinking water bottles 90% filled with water and 3 teaspoons of salt added.

I would freeze them and put them in a cooler to bring on boat. Salt water ice freezes at a lower temperature and stays frozen longer than does fresh water ice.

The smaller bottles work better than big bottles because they pack around the fish better.
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I neve could figure out why you don't see chests set up to accept a icemaker... That would be the way, not doubt.

I had a 270lb Manitwoc with a 500lb bin with a few of my fishing buddies... It was NOT cheap to run, water and electric was between $75 and $100 a month. Worse than that, in the dog days of summer it was very ineffective. The 270lbs per day drops to maybe 120 or so. It was very convenient, but it never stops running, never. The partners for different reasons little by little didn't need it any more so we sold it. If I were to do it over for just myself, I wouldn't.. I would buy a chest freezer from Sams or someplace and cut a deal with the ice house, I'm sure they'd deliver a freezer full wholesale. Especially in Florida
I wonder why that is? My friends is well insulated and stays a full year round, even in the 100 degree Charleston August... I suspect it has something to do with poor insulation in the bin. If that is the case, you can make a bin that has absolute top notch insulation

I've seen these guys build freezers for boats. Supposedly these panels are unrivaled in insulating ability
http://www.glacierbay.com/insulation_ultra_r.asp
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Frank - ironically enough, I have a torn apart chest freezer, a bunch of power tools, and a couple of little ice maker units sitting in my living room right now.

I do think that the only way you'll get a hundred+ pounds of ice will be a commerical ice maker. The downsides to those though, as I understood them, are they they're expensive, use a lot of power/water, require cleaning and if they break, really $$ to repair.

For me, I was just sick of paying 7-11 ten bucks every weekend for 30 lbs of ice.

So what I'm doing right now, is rigging up a single ice maker unit (you know, the kind in your average freezer-on-top home unit) inside a chest freezer. I'm going to measure the ice output for 24 hours and see just how much ice it makes. I am guessing a single unit will make somewhere between 2-4 lbs of ice a day. For my needs of 30 or so lbs a week then, I'll see just how many cheapo ice maker heads I would have to install to reach that output. In this small chest freezer I've got, I can fit in 2, or possibly 3 traditional ice maker heads. Hopefully that'll get me to the volume I am looking for. I'm going to drop the ice into 5 gal buckets or plastic containers.

As I'm working on this I'm running into a number of issues, mostly in trying to avoid drilling through the damn coils hidden inside the cabinet. I used a chest freezer because I got one cheap, but a stand up freezer is MUCH more practical for ice storage. If you could make it - imagine trying to lift 150 lbs of ice out of a chest freezer? (you can't just have the ice dump into the bin, it will freeze together into one big block - commerical unit ice doesn't stick because the ice is *always* in a state of melting)

I'll post back about how my project goes - give me a couple days. I won't be able to make a ton of ice, but it'll be (relatively) cheap and maintenance should be practically nonexistant.
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lucky for me, my work put an industrial size ice maker in the breakroom... there is a 4ftx3ftx3ft ice bin full, all the time. I think I'm the only one that uses it for my occasional soda glass
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I have a chest freezer that I use to store bait and ice. I bought a 10 gallon or so kitchen trash can and set it inside the freezer and all week I remove the ice maker bin from the kitchen fridge and dump it in the trash can in the outside freezer. I also freeze any container that will hold water, soft drink bottles, milk jugs, etc. I use a box cutter to cut off the plastic and use those blocks in my bait box, drink box, etc. Unfortunately, on top of that, we carry much more ice. A crew mate has a ice machine in his shop that we can fill a 150 qt and a 320 qt cooler full. If he can fill the 150 qt in the morning, by the afternoon we can fill a second 150 qt and the 320 qt.
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Ok, with a little redneck engineering, got one ice maker unit (thanks for the help, Tom) up and running as a test in my chest freezer.

It produced right around 4 lbs of ice in a 24 hour period. I'll be cleaning up the wiring and adding a 2nd unit this weekend - giving me an 8 lb/day capacity which should be perfect for my needs.

Not 100% sure how I'll be collecting the ice yet, found a plastic bin that will probably hold 25-35 lbs. It will be a few weeks before I could give an accurate opinion of what will happen when you dump that much ice into one big lump. I'm almost positive trying to "fill" the freezer with ice would be disasterous.

Will be nice to have a constant supply of ice! The multi-day weekends of fishing will be a little problematic but I can always bag some.
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I can get 20 lbs for $1.25 at Twice the Ice. I would have to look hard at what you are spending, including the addtl electricity and water for a small amount of ice. Convenience is something you have to put a price on and that may make it worthwhile.
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I can get 20 lbs for $1.25 at Twice the Ice. I would have to look hard at what you are spending, including the addtl electricity and water for a small amount of ice. Convenience is something you have to put a price on and that may make it worthwhile.
Here I'm looking at $1.99-2.39 for a 10 lb bag. I have a 15 minute drive from the house to the boat, if I stop to buy ice at any of the 6 convenience stores along the way, it costs me $7.50 for 30 lbs and adds 5 minutes to my trip depending on how many crackheads are in line. I spent $20+ on ice last week for three 3-hour fishing trips after work, and that was just buying enough to keep the bait frozen and put a couple fish in the cooler.

I'm assuming my little freezer experiment will pay for itself over the course of a year or so, (maybe a little longer) but I'm really doing it for my own entertainment and the convenience of having ice on hand whenver the itch strikes me to make a quick run out. For a typical half day of fishing, the most we'd take with us would be 50 lbs or so, (usually less) so capacity should be in line with my use.
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I read a post somewhere, probably here, where a guy used a regular upright refrigerator freezer w/icemaker, for his off shore ice.
He took all the shelves out of the freezer side, and put a plywood panel in the opening, so that the ice fell behind the plywood. When you opened the door, the plywood kept the ice from falling out.
He set the refer up on blocks, so that when he wanted to, he could open the door, slide the cooler up to the base of the ice storage, and scoop the ice into the cooler.
There weren't any pics.
You'd have to design a hinged door with sides, that'd hinge on the bottom, and lay down. The sides would need to slip back into something when you closed the hatch, or they'd bind up in the ice. Or, something that would work, to let you get ice out somehow???

I always thought this was a great idea. It'd make ice all weeklong until it was brim full.
The refrigerator side would be great for drinks etc.. Now that I live in florida, I keep a fridge full of drinks in the garage anyway.

If you look around, you can probably find a good used combination somewhere cheap, and give it a try.
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Flot, that looks perfect. I was thinking of something along the same lines myself. However, they just put in one of those ice vending machines between my house and the marina. Its hard to beat 20lbs of bulk ice for $1.50.
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Flot,

I think you idea is cool... get it cool. Seriously, I love that kind of stuff. Keep us posted on your project.
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I think you idea is cool... get it cool. Seriously, I love that kind of stuff. Keep us posted on your project.
It was going really well - right up until the point that I drilled right through a coolant coil. I got a little carried away with my success and was trying to route wires and water lines "just right." This was a cheapo freezer I bought off craigslist, but I hate to send it to the landfill.

It'll take me a few days to try to repair but I think there is still hope. Always wanted my own set of A/C repair tools so now's my chance. Otherwise, it'll be back to craigslist for another. Will update my progress when I've got some.
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