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Old 09-22-2009, 11:15 AM
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I want to put some DVD's I have purchased on to my iPod. I use my Mac (Apple) mostly for iPod/iTunes applications and want to use software on my Mac, not my Windows based computers. I called the Apple store and the gal there said you can't do it. I told her there is no such thing as can't but I could RETURN my brand new MacBook if a solution can NOT be remedied. She transferred me to what sounded like somewhere in India and I spoke with someone there. He told me to get a DVD to MP4 converter and then I could put my DVD's into iTunes and then my iPod.

To be clear, I want to put my DVD's into itunes so as to play them on my iPod using my Apple computer ONLY.

Have any of you done this? If so what software do you use? I purchased software from Cucosoft and it stated NOTHING that I found to be specific for Windows. It turns out the software is for Windows. I sent Cuco-soft an E-mail instructing them to NOT charge my credit card. Cuco-soft also does NOT provide ANY telephone number to contact them. This really pisses me off! I then performed a search using Google for DVD to iPod conversion software and found many companies offering such software however I am NOT able to find a single company that has a telephone number listed as a contact. I want technical support, NOT a letter writing contest! I am very disappointed that Apple does NOT offer such software. There exists thousands of applications for the iPhone/iTouch and yet nothing by Apple to put a DVD I already paid for just as I have many thousands of music CDs on my iPod. This is BS!

Can anyone provide any assistance concerning this matter? If so, thank you in advance.

One more thing, my brand new Apple MacBook Pro was NOT made/assembled in the USA.
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I use handbrake for the pc they also have a release for macs and the best thing is it is free.

http://handbrake.fr/

and for instructions on how to use it see http://www.anders.com/guides/convert.../iPod/mac.html
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Yup, Handbrake, Are you talking movies or music coming off the DVD?

None the Apple stuff is made in the US, its all made in China
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I thank both of you. I am trying Handbrake right now. I want to put some DVDs like Family Guy and South Park on my iPod so I can kill time during air travel.

I was disappointed to learn my new Mac came from China and not the USA. I understand why companies manufacture overseas as the cost to operate outside the USA is significantly less but for the price Apple charges for their stuff I think Rolex could build their stuff.
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So far this is NOT working for me. I used Handbrake. I imported the file to itunes. When I play it (Family Guy) the picture and audio is scrambled. This is very frustrating.
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What you need is a DVD RIP. I thought you were doing music off a DVD. Google "DVD RIP MP4" you should find something.

Its not an Apple thing, its a copyright thing
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I read you about the copyright thing but what PMO in a big way is I paid for the content of the DVDs just as I have for the content of the music CDs. This stuff does NOT have to be this frickin complicated.
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It looks like Hand Brake should do it?

http://handbrake.fr/details.php

Try........http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
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It is a copyright thing -- the DVD coding is copyrighted, no one can code a converter that access the DVD code without violating that copyright.

Not sure this is for Apple folks -- perhaps it is another application that only exists for Windows machines? That said:

Some genius exploited a loophole in the copyright, wrote DVDDecryptor, a freeware program for converting DVDs, and stripping them of regional coding, if you want. Sony quickly started upping the antty on purchasing DVDDecryptor. The guy agreed to sell it to Sony, but just before he agreed to he mass distributed DVDDecryptor all over the internet. Sony, as the new lawful owner, was tasked with capping the distribution of DVDDecryptor and taking to down form shareware websites. Sony bought DVDDecryptor to keep it out of the public's hands -- prevent copying of DVDs.

DVDDecryptor works and works very well. You can find documentation on how to use it on the web, but you cannot find the software anymore. You need to ask someone that has DVDDecryptor to give you a copy. In a nutshell, a DVD is a nicely compressed. DVDDecryptor allows you to convert the DVD disc to a file that plays nicely with any multimedia software. A 4.7gb DVD takes up 4.7gb on your hard drive.

That said, it looks like something called ImgBurn has risen from the ashes of DVDDecryptor. Haven't tried it, but looks like it may be a replacement for DVDDecryptor with added HD and BluRay decrypting as well.

http://forum.imgburn.com/
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Eyeball - Thank you for the information. I understand the copyright issue however it still PMO. CDs are copyrighted material also and yet iTunes rips and imports these. Anyone can also buy TV programs and movies from iTunes as I already have and this is acceptable. I am somewhat disappointed that Apple has not addressed this issue so as to please the legitimate consumer/user. With the substantial capacity of some of the iPods today, it would be convenient to put media on the device and avoid having to carry discs around. The CD and DVD will one day become obsolete just like the 8 track and vinyl record. It is interesting what is happening. This DVD issue is reminiscent of the old practice of the cable companies. They used to charge customers per television in the home and the FCC ruled years ago this was not acceptable as the subscriber is paying for a signal. The way I view this situation is if I pay for a copyrighted program (TV show, etc.) then I should have the right to use the data for my personal use. The record companies realized long ago that people would record music on cassettes and this was acceptable as long as the consumer did not distribute the information. Now I simply need to find the software that will do the trick. As far as I am concerned, I have no legal issue as I have paid for the copyrighted program material. Again, thank you for the information, it is very helpful.
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... As far as I am concerned, I have no legal issue as I have paid for the copyrighted program material. Again, thank you for the information, it is very helpful.

Unfortunately our governments (through laws) and courts disagree. The SW to break the encryption is illegal (ask the guy in Sweden/Norway that created it).

If Apple gave you the SW to break/copy DVDs, they become deep pockets for the Motion Picture Industry Association...
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Agreed all of the above - you have the movie industry to blame, no one else...

Of course it's just like everything - if you're determined and have the technical know-how you can download movies off the internet all day long. If you have a DVD sitting in front of you and want to watch it on your iphone, there's no easy (legal) process.
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There are applications that will convert DVD's to your iPhone, and they run on Apples, but they are not freeware. Something like $20 or so, and up. Royalties gotta be paid.

Same for any DVD drive that writes DVD formatted discs -- royalties are being paid and embedded in the cost of the drive. Same for any application that streams MP3 -- royalties are being paid.
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I use videora its free but its a little bit of a pain in the butt to use. You will first need a dvd decryptor and then you can convert it to mp4. It takes a little bit of time but it works.

This guide walks you through all the steps

http://www.videora.com/en-us/Convert...e/dvd-to-ipod/
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This is for Windows machines only
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This is a long post but I feel the need to vent:

I wish to begin with the fact that I love Apple products. There is no getting around the fact that I have been an Apple fan for 20+ years. I have personally owned several Macintosh desktop computers as well as three laptops. I also have owned many PC based machines and have been using mostly PC based machines for the past decade. I also own a half dozen iPods. I very much like the iPod. I recently purchased a MacBook Pro for the sole purpose as to make it an iTunes device. My music and picture library is consuming too much space on my work computer and I thought I would buy an Apple computer and make it my dedicated entertainment device. I ordered the 500 GB version MacBook Pro directly from Apple and have been quite happy with the device until the past few days. The computer itself is well constructed. The screen is not good, it's great. Everything about the device is really top shelf. I was to understand from an Apple employee before I made this most recent purchase that there is a way to put my DVDs that are copyrighted on to my iPod. This is in part why I bought a new Apple computer as well another iPod (iTouch). This experience has left me with bad feelings towards Apple and the "industry" that controls copyrighted material. The FACT is I do NOT bootleg/steal my music or movies or television programs. I am happy to pay for it and do so. I paid for the DVDs that I have. I have already paid the royalty to whoever has it coming to them. I have the right to FAIR USE. I am willing to be sued as well counter sue whoever controls this industry. I have the right to FAIR USE. I believe this situation of Apple not allowing consumers to place their private/owned collection of copyrighted video media is NO different than the copyright issues concerning music. I believe their is a strong argument to be made that I own a DVD, say Family Guy for example, and I have the right to put Family Guy on my iPod for my personal use. The music industry understood that people recorded their records, tapes and CDs and listened to the content on another device. This is legal. This is the same argument made to the FCC concerning cable TV. I am sure many of you remember the days where cable companies were permitted and used to charge you per the number of televisions you had in your house. The telephone companies at one time also used to charge you per the number of telephones you had in your house. It was ruled by the FCC that this was not lawful as a consumer was purchasing a signal. Today the cable companies have to some degree circumvented this ruling by charging people for cable boxes. Now you need a cable box per television if you want to receive certain programming on a particular TV. I suspect in the future this is also going to go to court.

I have no issue with artists and industry receiving what is owed to them by way of royalty. I have strong issue with double charging. If someone wants to sue me they have to prove I have stolen copyrighted material. I can produce all of the content on my iPod and other devices and demonstrate it has been paid for in US Dollars. Any court in this land should rule that I have the right to FAIR USE. As far as any comment concerning to ask the guy in another country who apparently is in hot water for writing code to decipher encrypted data, this is a different scenario. The fact is anyone can import a music CD into iTunes. You can also buy the same music CD from iTunes. You can also buy movies and television shows from iTunes but you can NOT import the same copyrighted video from your personal collection into iTunes. This is BS. The new computer, iTouch and printer I just bought from Apple are in the process of being returned. The reason for the return is because no one from Apple is willing to assist me to place my video media into my iPod. The iPod has video capability and this is where I have issues. Some of you I am certain will be contrary to my position as some of you are contrary about most everything. This is perfectly OK as it is your right to be a whiner. I however have had my fill of such BS particularly when I have PAID for the right to see and hear certain content. An Apple employee told me that putting copyrighted video on an iPod can be done and I was informed of this before I purchased my new MacBook. I called Apple yesterday and a very pleasant young man told me he could not help me with my issue. The conversation went like this.

Me: Can you help me with putting some Family Guy DVDs I have on my iPod?

Apple: Um, no I can't. It is against company policy. I think it is illegal or something to do that.

Me: I can buy Family Guy episodes from Apple and put them on my iPod right?

Apple: Yeah you can. You can't use iTunes though to do it, it's not supported. I don't understand why you are not allowed to do what you want either since you paid for the material just like you did a music CD.

Me: Do you know how to put something like Family Guy on an iPod?

Apple: Um, yeah I do.

Me: So you put video like we are discussing on your iPod?

Apple: Uh, yeah I do.

Me: You however are not going to help or direct me how to do this are you?

Apple: I can't. It is against company policy.



I love Apple however this is BS! I tried different programs without success and find the entire experience to be underhanded. I learned there is decryption software. I am NOT comfortable from the illegal aspect of using such decryption software and do not wish to engage in such use of it. I want to accomplish what I want to do in a legal and ethical manner. It appears right now that the entertainment industry is LOSING BIG MONEY as a result of this short sighted policy. I am willing to bet that at least 50% of the youngsters out there have bootlegged content, including music and video content on their iPods. I am writing this to hopefully make others aware of what is taking place. The public is getting screwed and the industry is screwing their self. There are folks like me who are willing to pay for their entertainment. I simply am not willing to pay for my entertainment in repeated fashion. I support any artist and/or company that is due their rightful compensation. I do NOT support paying repeated royalty for the same content. I know there is an argument about paying taxes on top of taxes. I have an issue with this also however that is another battle that I see continuing to unfold on its own. I hope people read this and think about it. I hope Apple reads this and does something for the consumer about it. I am returning my recent Apple purchase not because I don't like the devices. I am returning it because I am sickened by the fiscal abuse. I have spent considerable money buying music from iTunes and devices from Apple. I have even bought some television shows like Family Guy from Apple however have issues of paying for programming again, particularly when I already paid for it once. As much as I love Apple we might be parting company. The public needs to express their displeasure through NOT purchasing from such industries if a change for the better is to occur. I want to buy Apple products as I love their stuff. I just do NOT subscribe to such abusive and one sided policy. I am all for them making money as they are innovative and produce a quality product. It is the policy that is being exercised that I have a problem with and I believe such policy is in itself abusive if not illegal.
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