The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum


BoaterRated.com
Go Back   The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Dockside Chat

Notices

Random Quote: theres a fine line between boredom and relaxation
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-03-2009, 03:07 PM
  #1    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,550
Default Need Legal Advice...Loaning out my 38' enclosed trailer to a friend

I'm letting a friend borrow my 38' gooseneck enclosed trailer so he can move his household furniture to his new home, about a 400 miles away. He's going to pull it with his truck. Is there any legal aspects of doing this that I need to be aware of? For example, if he causes an accident pulling this thing and injures/kills someone, is there any way at all that I could be held liable, by him or the person he injured? I have a bad feeling that the answer is going to be yes...
__________________
Boatless again...
Key Largo 186CC/Yam 90 - Sold
Pro-Line 20 Walk/175 EFI Merc - Sold
Classic Aquasport 200WA/Evindrude 225 - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2000CC Vector/Honda BF225 - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2200WA Vector/Yam F115's - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2400CC Vector/150 HPDI's - Sold
Dusky 256/Honda BF150's - Sold
Twin Vee 26CC/140 Zukes - Sold
31' Fountain CC Open/Opti 250XS's - Sold

Last edited by BiloxiGuy; 09-03-2009 at 06:38 AM.
BiloxiGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 03:30 PM
  #2    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Jax Fla,Horseshoe Beach Fla
Posts: 13,147
Send a message via AIM to tommyr904
Default

normally,the towing truck has all the liability on it.but the way things are nowaday's who the hell knows.is the trailer titled?if not have a bill of sale wrote up with you being the seller to your friend and you keep it in case something does happen you can use the "I just sold it defense" if nothing happens tear it up when he's done
tommyr904 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 08-03-2009, 03:40 PM
  #3    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Kent Island, MD
Posts: 5,772
Default

Make sure he has the trailers registration card!!
__________________

'88 Kencraft Challenger w/ 225 Optimax

When all you have in life is a hammer, treat everything like a nail.
Just1more is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 03:50 PM
  #4    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
PLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: South Mississippi
Posts: 11,057
Default

Yer asking for legal advice HERE!?!?

You'll get plenty, but I wouldn't take any of it.


Big Al
__________________
"Pedophiles must die" - Ted Nugent
Snapper Head is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:01 PM
  #5    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Manchester, MO/Naples FL.
Posts: 1,884
Default

Call me dumb but I would call my insurance company first and my lawyer second.
__________________
.
Mr. Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:06 PM
  #6    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Not in Texas
Posts: 9,522
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BiloxiGuy View Post

... For example, if he causes an accident pulling this thing and injurs/kills someone, is there any way at all that I could be held liable, by him or the person he injured? I have a bad feeling that the answer is going to be yes...
This ain't legal advice -- it's brain surgery -- if he is negligent in causing an accident that is the result of the trailer or pulling the trailer you are responsible for providing (loaning) the trailer to a negligent driver. Same thing if you let someone borrow your car -- yours will be the second name on the list of defendants. I'm not sure about an accident that has nothing to do with the trailer, e.g. if he turns the wrong way onto a one-way street and meets another vehicle head-on.
Eyeball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:08 PM
  #7    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
PLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: South Mississippi
Posts: 11,057
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyeball View Post
This ain't legal advice -- it's brain surgery -- if he is negligent in causing an accident that is the result of the trailer or pulling the trailer you are responsible for providing (loaning) the trailer to a negligent driver. Same thing if you let someone borrow your car -- yours will be the second name on the list of defendants. I'm not sure about an accident that has nothing to do with the trailer, e.g. if he turns the wrong way onto a one-way street and meets another vehicle head-on.
Like I said - I wouldn't take any of it.


Big Al
__________________
"Pedophiles must die" - Ted Nugent
Snapper Head is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:12 PM
  #8    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Not in Texas
Posts: 9,522
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post

Like I said - I wouldn't take any of it.

Brain surgery, or legal advice?
Eyeball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:17 PM
  #9    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
Posts: 2,697
Default

If you own the trailer and it is involved in an accident you will be named in the suit. Believe it!
__________________
http://www.YellowfinOnly.com. The source for all things YF!!
Brett1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:28 PM
  #10    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
PLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: South Mississippi
Posts: 11,057
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett1 View Post
If you own the trailer and it is involved in an accident you will be named in the suit. Believe it!
Now, THIS guy I would listen to.

He'd be the one filing the suit against you. No shiite.


Big Al
__________________
"Pedophiles must die" - Ted Nugent
Snapper Head is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:28 PM
  #11    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
PLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGERPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: South Mississippi
Posts: 11,057
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyeball View Post
Brain surgery, or legal advice?
Well, I can't qualify for brain surgery.......


Big Al
__________________
"Pedophiles must die" - Ted Nugent
Snapper Head is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:37 PM
  #12    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location:
Posts: 9,113
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brett1 View Post
If you own the trailer and it is involved in an accident you will be named in the suit. Believe it!
How do Uhaul/etc avoid this and why can't an individual do it?
__________________




"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive." ~ C.S.Lewis



bsmit24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 04:58 PM
  #13    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida
Posts: 2,697
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmit24 View Post
How do Uhaul/etc avoid this and why can't an individual do it?
They don't avoid it... they insure against it and ask you to insure against as well as having indemnity clauses in the rental contract. And guess what, if they pay a claim they will come after you in subrogation.
__________________
http://www.YellowfinOnly.com. The source for all things YF!!
Brett1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 05:27 PM
  #14    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,550
Default

Thanks guys, that's the kind of info I was looking for. I honestly don't mind lending the trailer out, just want to cover my butt. The trailer is titled in my name, and legally registered in my name as well. So basically, just draw up a legal bill of sale with my friend and if everything works out okay, just rip it up?
__________________
Boatless again...
Key Largo 186CC/Yam 90 - Sold
Pro-Line 20 Walk/175 EFI Merc - Sold
Classic Aquasport 200WA/Evindrude 225 - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2000CC Vector/Honda BF225 - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2200WA Vector/Yam F115's - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2400CC Vector/150 HPDI's - Sold
Dusky 256/Honda BF150's - Sold
Twin Vee 26CC/140 Zukes - Sold
31' Fountain CC Open/Opti 250XS's - Sold
BiloxiGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 05:33 PM
  #15    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Not in Texas
Posts: 9,522
Default

What is the cost to haul your trail 400 miles out, and then 400 miles back, vs the cost of a one-way rental truck?
Eyeball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 07:06 PM
  #16    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Jax Fla,Horseshoe Beach Fla
Posts: 13,147
Send a message via AIM to tommyr904
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BiloxiGuy View Post
Thanks guys, that's the kind of info I was looking for. I honestly don't mind lending the trailer out, just want to cover my butt. The trailer is titled in my name, and legally registered in my name as well. So basically, just draw up a legal bill of sale with my friend and if everything works out okay, just rip it up?


thats what I did.
tommyr904 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2009, 09:27 PM
  #17    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 2,545
Default

The cost of a one way trailer can't be much, hell pay it for him and don't worry
bellsisland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2009, 05:24 AM
  #18    
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Thornton's Ferry,NH,USA
Posts: 7,970
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapper Head View Post
Yer asking for legal advice HERE!?!?

You'll get plenty, but I wouldn't take any of it.


Big Al
Big Gay AL isn't as dumb as he looks. Who could be?


Make sure your friend has insurance, and make sure your insurance covers "guest use" for the trailer. Then wish him luck and hope for the best!

Good luck!
__________________
I'm not a boat expert, I just read THT!
Kamper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2009, 05:58 AM
  #19    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gulf Coast, Alabama
Posts: 10,177
Default

a. Call your insurance agent to learn whether you're covered when you loan out your trailer. If the answer is Yes, then:

b. Have your friend list you as "additional Insured" on his policy after he verifies that the trailer would be covered under his policy in case of accidental damage, whether collision or comprehensive.

Don't know whether that could be done, but that's what I'd try to do. If you get listed as the "additional insured", then your friend's insurance company would defend you and settle for you in case of an accident.
__________________
Rick
Alabama's Gulf Coast
Chaparral 240 Signature (Sold)
bamaboy473 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2009, 06:58 AM
  #20    
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 1,550
Default

As far as the one way trailer, I don't know if you can rent one the size that he needs. It sounds like "selling" him the trailer is the best idea to completely free me of liability. I'm thinking notarized, cash exchanged, the whole nine yards. I hate to be this way, but I just can't afford a lawsuit over trying to help out a friend. If he doesn't like it, then he can find another trailer...
__________________
Boatless again...
Key Largo 186CC/Yam 90 - Sold
Pro-Line 20 Walk/175 EFI Merc - Sold
Classic Aquasport 200WA/Evindrude 225 - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2000CC Vector/Honda BF225 - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2200WA Vector/Yam F115's - Sold
Hydra-Sports 2400CC Vector/150 HPDI's - Sold
Dusky 256/Honda BF150's - Sold
Twin Vee 26CC/140 Zukes - Sold
31' Fountain CC Open/Opti 250XS's - Sold
BiloxiGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Towing Enclosed Trailer in GA, Didn't weigh In !! SWFLNavigation The Boating Forum 24 01-03-2008 01:23 PM
Request For Legal Advice TN FREEBIRD Dockside Chat 15 09-13-2007 04:04 PM
legal advice... 11andy11 Dockside Chat 22 08-22-2007 05:42 PM
Help w/ Organizing an Enclosed Trailer Just1more Dockside Chat 12 03-09-2006 10:50 AM
Need some legal advice swede3 Dockside Chat 3 12-14-2004 05:57 PM

 



©2009 TheHullTruth.com

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0