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Old 11-12-2009, 09:26 PM
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While we're here..any of you Mac folks who know how to get to a shell prompt, type this in:

){ :|:& };:

(Notice the spaces between the curly brackets)

I know in every flavor of Redhat, it will lock the box up tight. Does it do that in the Mac as well? It's an odd combination of keystrokes that cause a buffer overflow condition. Just wondering.
anything that would cause a buffer overflow would be patched rapidly as soon as it is made public
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Try it on your linux box that you said is also running on your "lappy" and tell me what it does.

I just tried it on my router, for what its worth... nadda... but then my linux based router does not allow overflows in the stack...
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Glad the World finally is catching up to my ideas,
even raymarine has touch screen technology now...

What is Aaple gonna do to catch up??? http://mactouch.com.au/, I guess they just have to follow the lead, since hp and dell have touch screens for over a year...


Anyway Microsoft might had the technology back then, however was not available
to the consumer.

10 years ago I look pretty hard, cause I would like to start up a company with touch screen products, and the only touch screen products in the market
was POS's and ATM terminals overseas.

Looks like the "Wireless revolution" is loosing to the "touch screen" revolution...
Aaple is being "catching up"...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/1...7BE0KT20111215
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"I will never buy a computer that uses a mouse. MS-DOS gives me everything a computer user could ever want or need. Mouses and the GUI are for kids." yadda, yadda, yadda. That was the DOS-head's mantra in 1984. Wait! Then MS invented WINDOWS!! What short memories we have.
MS did NOT invent windows. Do your research before making a claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...user_interface

The Macintosh, released in 1984, was the first commercially successful product to use a multi-panel window GUI.

The Xerox Alto (and later Xerox Star ) was an early personal computer developed at Xerox PARC in 1973. It was the first computer to use the desktop metaphor and mouse-driven graphical user interface (GUI).
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MS did NOT invent windows. Do your research before making a claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...user_interface

The Macintosh, released in 1984, was the first commercially successful product to use a multi-panel window GUI.

The Xerox Alto (and later Xerox Star ) was an early personal computer developed at Xerox PARC in 1973. It was the first computer to use the desktop metaphor and mouse-driven graphical user interface (GUI).
read a little deeper. Xerox was first, and then Mac hired MS to make one for them with an agreement that MS would not release a PC version for a certain period of time.
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There is no "end" key. I'm sure there is a finger twister solution(hold the apple sign, the up arrow and 2 or 3 other keys).but that sort of defeats the reason to have it.

The delete key is backwards. It's really more of a backspace key than a delete key.
The trackpad is much more versatile than what you are probably used to. On the MBP or the Magic Trackpad, try Fn-right arrow and Fn-left arrow for end and home. Three finger swipe up and down on the pad will do the same thing, though, without any keystrokes. Go to Apple menu > System Preferences > Trackpad to see how to use the trackpad and configure it for your specific needs. The delete key is a backwards delete, and Fn-delete is forward delete.
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We bought the 1 on 1 class for $99 at the Apple store. Good for a year of tutoring.

I send the smartest kid to the classes,, and that child schools the rest of us back home.
They'll let other family member attend the class, through the rules say no, they fudge.

Yeah, our Apple is a PITA and it shouldn't be,, but once you understand it,, it's amazing.

Our cameras won't run with windows 7 movie maker,, but work amazing with imovie.
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Who dug this thread up? The job and Mac I started this thread about are long gone.
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Funny how every phone, PC and device usually follows the motion and operation of an Apple product. I have both, but if you want to know what future products are going to do, watch what is being sold by Apple.

Every smart phone mimics the motions of an iPhone in some shape or form. And that iPad that was perceived to be such a dud is THE standard for all smart tablets - caught the market flat footed. And that MS OS (Win 7) sure does try to do everything OSX does but fails in a lot of ways. Thankfully Win7 is a lot more stable than Vista was.

Wish my work computer (PC) ran as smooth as my home system (Mac). The home system hasn't been rebooted in who knows how long and hasn't crashed in at least 2 years - when it did crash last it was due to a monitor power supply overcycling the shared USB ports.
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Funny how every phone, PC and device usually follows the motion and operation of an Apple product. I have both, but if you want to know what future products are going to do, watch what is being sold by Apple.

Every smart phone mimics the motions of an iPhone in some shape or form. And that iPad that was perceived to be such a dud is THE standard for all smart tablets - caught the market flat footed. And that MS OS (Win 7) sure does try to do everything OSX does but fails in a lot of ways. Thankfully Win7 is a lot more stable than Vista was.

Wish my work computer (PC) ran as smooth as my home system (Mac). The home system hasn't been rebooted in who knows how long and hasn't crashed in at least 2 years - when it did crash last it was due to a monitor power supply overcycling the shared USB ports.
You simple can't argue with stuff that Works

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All I know is that my Acer laptop cost me $ 575 new. An apple laptop with similar size screen, etc. costs a minimum of $ 1,799. I can buy three Acer machines for the price of one Macbook. My Acer does everything I want it to do with no issues. I'm not bashing Apple at all. I just don't see the value in their laptops. BTW, I have an iPhone as I see value in those devices.
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some of the information being disseminated here looks like circa 1994
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If you go to the Apple Store, you might have to wait a while as they are very busy fixing all the Iphone 4S's.
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Funny how every phone, PC and device usually follows the motion and operation of an Apple product. I have both, but if you want to know what future products are going to do, watch what is being sold by Apple.

Every smart phone mimics the motions of an iPhone in some shape or form. And that iPad that was perceived to be such a dud is THE standard for all smart tablets - caught the market flat footed. And that MS OS (Win 7) sure does try to do everything OSX does but fails in a lot of ways. Thankfully Win7 is a lot more stable than Vista was.

Wish my work computer (PC) ran as smooth as my home system (Mac). The home system hasn't been rebooted in who knows how long and hasn't crashed in at least 2 years - when it did crash last it was due to a monitor power supply overcycling the shared USB ports.

Macs are a PIA to use in large networked environment.
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Apple is doomed! Sell short! Gazillions of people are being robbed! MS-DOS is here to stay! If apple wasn't there, you'd all still be running Win 3.1, and you know it. Hate is good, and stubbornness is even better. Fact is, once you go Mac, you never go back.
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Apple is doomed! Sell short! Gazillions of people are being robbed! MS-DOS is here to stay! If apple wasn't there, you'd all still be running Win 3.1, and you know it. Hate is good, and stubbornness is even better. Fact is, once you go Mac, you never go back.

Had one. Didn't find it to be better...just different. In many ways, it needed a work around to do the normal stuff I'd do on my PC.

I'd use one if my company gave me one...but I'm sure not spending $1500 (or more) of my own $$ to get one.
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If Apple was such a revolutionary company, they would have a
game station...

The Iplayer!!!

Microsoft has a game console,
Sony has a game console,
Ibm has "fame" console (Nintendo)...
Sega has a game console.

Apple cannot come up with one.

2013 maybe,
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-ent...or-2013-launch

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If Apple was such a revolutionary company, they would have a
game station...

The Iplayer!!!

Microsoft has a game console,
Sony has a game console,
Ibm has "fame" console (Nintendo)...
Sega has a game console.

Apple cannot come up with one.

2013 maybe,
http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-ent...or-2013-launch

Th Apple Mac was very innovative, at the time. The apple mac was Steve Wozniak -- and he he is long gone.

Creating a gaming system requires a crap-load of innovation. I have said this before -- today, APPLE IS NOT AND INNOVATIVE COMPANY! Apple takes EXISTING technologies invented by other companies and bundles it into a package you think you need. The day the iPhone was released I posted that there was NOTHING NEW about the iPhone's technology -- all of it existed in other phones before. Apple cherry-picked the technologies it wanted to bundle into a new piece of hardware. That is why every other smart phone has zipped past the iPhone in one way or another. That is Apple's business model -- read Apple's SEC filings!

There was just an article in the last couple days about how Apple spends less than 2% on R&D. An innovative technology company easily spends 10-times that "inventing". Apple is moving toward creating innovations in silicon. The benefits of that won't be realized for many years to come, but it could be very significant.
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