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On a more serious note.
I vote that at some point either the cleaning ladies
decided to move the bed side ways
a heavy bed as this will easily move with the knees locked against it
it will only need a light side ways pressure on the plastic to
shatter it as described, and with that much drywall there would be
only a few threads of the screws holding the outlet in
and it will pop out of the box
Mike
Totally agree with you Michael; that was my thought.
In order to get to the bottom of this, we need pics of said "fox" girlfriend.
Ive only gotten up to Joenic's post so far and for sure this has got to be a key to solving this!!!! It is so important that I could not wait to read the rest before agreeing with Joe. Pics are a must, from as many angles as possible!!
Now, back to the saga..........
Alright, I finished reading and carefully taking all posted evidence into consideration. I saw the photo, er.... I mean "Exhibit #1" .
More evidence will be needed.
Is "said outlet" part of the original power in this room, on that wall? Is it possible that "said outlet" could have been added at a later date therefore possible that it may have not been fastened to a stud at all. Could it have been the type of box that has the "Wings" that flip out and hold the box in place when turning the two caddy corner screws, a retrofit box? Possibly installed incorrectly that would have let it pull out of the wall?
Now to the shattered cover plate and the outlet itself. Heating then cooling can make things brittle as a mofo. Any pics of the outlet and cover plate? Maybe the girlfriend holding them?
The bed is a monster. No two maids (well, none that we'd ever want in OUR houses) could move it. Add to that its construction is a roll top headboard that keeps the bed at least 6" from the wall. I can't see any way that impact from the room side could have occurred...and that's what strange. However I did see something in the photo that caught my eyes....
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Last edited by bamaboy473; 03-06-2009 at 07:08 PM.
The clock had a short in it and it welded to the outlet and the maid moved the bed .When she moved the bed the cord from the clock would not release from the outlet that the electrican wired the apartment did not attach to the wall that then pulled thru the wall that led to your discover and hense this thread was born.
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That's why I think this outlet was not part of the original building, it was added later with a retro fit box that was not installed 100% correctly.
bama can confirm this.
I'm not aware of an "back to back" arrangement of boxes. On the flip side, since each home is wired separately, it wouldn't make a difference.
The home is new, Brad is the second owner, the first owner a single lady.
The mystery is in how an outlet can be impacted while its behind a bed. Let's give the maids credit for moving the bed and hitting the outlet with a hammer....but why?
I'm going to try to launch a photo of the outlet from Brad's MSWord document....
__________________ Rick
Alabama's Gulf Coast
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I apologize for getting off the subject here, but how can you have a "firewall" with plastic boxes in it? Especially "back to back"?
Bill, "Typically" the firewall arrangement for a townhouse and multi-family construction, is the tenant walls on each side of a coreboard wall. The coreboard wall is the actual firewall and there can not be anything penetrating it, whatsoever. If the wall in question is different, it would go against the NFPA designs I'm familiar with.
Go look at your vacuums plug,I'll bet the prongs are bent. I have watched many people pull the plugs out from recepticials from across the room. If the plug was around the bed the angle would have shattered the plate and pulled box from wall. I have repaired those kind of problems more than I once. As far as the ladies go, you are to be commended.
Thanks, jvtuna, but no cigar for that theory. The outlet is directly behind the large bed and has fed a clock radio and a lamp since he moved in. When he found the damage, both plugs were out of the outlet AND the darned prongs were factory straight without any signs of fire or smoke.
__________________ Rick
Alabama's Gulf Coast
Chaparral 240 Signature (Sold)
Go look at your vacuums plug,I'll bet the prongs are bent. I have watched many people pull the plugs out from recepticials from across the room. If the plug was around the bed the angle would have shattered the plate and pulled box from wall. I have repaired those kind of problems more than I once. As far as the ladies go, you are to be commended.
Good theory.. Maid plugs in vacuum and then gets lazy pulling the plug.. or... pulling somebodys plug.
Good theory.. Maid plugs in vacuum and then gets lazy pulling the plug.. or... pulling somebodys plug.
Reeeeely clutching at straws here, but any chance of a natural gas or propane leak into the wall. Maybe a plumber getting some gas into to the wall and then popping it? Propane makes for a pretty low intensity pop and probably wouldn't burn anything. Gasoline fumes? alchohol fumes? Ghosts?
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However I did see something in the photo that caught my eyes....
I saw TWO things that caught my eyes....
I'm leaning toward the possibility that an alien UFO sailed in, landing under the bed in a search for intelligent life on this planet. Seeing something mounted on the wall that looked like a four-slit-eyed monster with two D-shaped mouths, they blasted it with their neuron phasers and then promptly got the hell outta Dodge.
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