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Old 06-10-2008, 01:45 PM
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Default Drilling in Tile -- HELP, I'm at my wits end!

We just finished remodeling our bathroom and have all the tile installed porcelin tile, see tile here: http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...G11&lpage=none

Now I am trying to drill six, 3/16" holes to install the shower door. I've spent 1 1/2 hours on hole 1!!!!!!!!

I've used the Black & Decker tile bits, Bosch tile bits and an American Vermont masonry bit. I am still maybe only 2/3s of the way through hole 1. I've used light, medium and hard pressure. I've used slow, medium and fast speeds, I've done it dry and sprayed water, I've changed the bits for fresh ones after thinking I might have burned them out on my first attempt.

I'm using a very powerful 1/2" variable speed drill with a max rpm of 850.

Maybe we are destined to have a shower curtain and no door!

It just can't be this difficult, any advice from you experts?

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You need more rpm's but what really works is a hammer drill. Don't apply too much pressure with a hammer drill or you will break a tile. You shouldn't need a wet bit.
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Don't you need a diamond bit for porcelain? Not just the regular spade type masonry bit. I'm not expert but real porcelain is very hard.
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I damn sure am not a tilespert; but I do know that porcelain is very, very hard; and that the pros charge you out the whazoo if they have to drill any tiles, and they drill the holes BEFORE the tile is laid.

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call a tile store.they sale a bit that is traingle shaped just for porcelin tile.i use them for hand held shower's.a regular bit will drill it but as you have found out unless your drilling in the grout line it will take forever
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call a tile store.they sale a bit that is traingle shaped just for porcelin tile.i use them for hand held shower's.a regular bit will drill it but as you have found out unless your drilling in the grout line it will take forever
Now THIS guy IS a tilespert.

And he damn sure knows porcelain.


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I drill into porcelain all the time. DO NOT use the hammer setting! The trick to this is getting a good "chip", like when you drill steel. It sounds like you've gone beyond that on this hole.

Try this, to finish this hole:

1. Get a 12 - 16oz. water bottle (Dasani, Evian, whatever) poke a small hole (about 1/16&quot in the cap and fill up the bottle with water.

2. Flush out the hole you've already started, very well. (You've "glazed it&quot

3. Start with a new CARBIDE tippedbit and go slow (approx.. 400 rpms) with medium pressure and move the drill around about 2" off center slowly. Squirt a stream of water from bottle every 10-15 seconds as you drill.

For the next holes the trick is getting through the top (hardest) layer. Go slow.

For what it's worth, youWILL go thru some bits (probably 6-8) but it should only take about 15 minutes per hole in porcelain.
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Tommy, the B&D bits I have are triangle shaped carbide bits, are the ones you mention different?

Just1more, that's what I was wondering, if I've glazed the whole and made it even harder, sounds like that may be the case.
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the bit's i am talking about are for drilling granite and porcelain tile.it's a Diamond tip bit.and slow speed is want you want.





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Capt. Dan,
When all else fails use the smallest carbide tip drill bit you have to get through the tile then up sie the bit to the final hole size. If you cut the bit size in half you are doubling the amount of pressure without oushing harder.
Try it it works. I have never used water or any other lube.
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You haven't made it harder, you've made it smoother. It needs a &quot;chip&quot; or something to grab, if that makes sense.
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Woodon, that sounds like a great idea, I'll hit it nonight and see what happens.

Just1more -- maybe if I score it again, inside the hole, with an awl or punch it will help.
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Anyone familiar with these guys as a source for diamond bits?

Looks like I can get a 3/16" bit shipped for about $20.

http://www.diamond-drill-bit-and-too...Drill/MAIN.htm
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You haven't made it harder, you've made it smoother. It needs a "chip" or something to grab, if that makes sense.

yes use a center punch to make spot to start drilling and never i repeat never use the drill on hammer, unless you want to crack that tile. a regular masonry drill bit will work fine.
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Is it possible just to move the holes in the door channel so that they line up with the grout joints? It will be alot easier drilling.
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Here you go.......Get a "stone bit"...it is tapered.........then switch to the diamond bit......you need MORE RPM'S...for sure.

DO NOT.........DO NOT.......use a HAMMER DRILL............(Sorry Thubert !!!!)

PATIENCE......but remember the door rails will cover any errors !!!!......or go TWIX THE GROTE LINES....(using new holes
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find this style in 3/16th and you will be done in 2 mins per hole or less..





I just did the exact same job and 6 holes 10 mins max...


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Everyone is saying the same thing so I'll be different...


I'd call in a drilling and blasting company.
That would cure ALL of your problems.


Diamond B&D triangle bit, 1000 rpm's, dry, NO HAMMER!, even-light pressure and you'll think you're drilling into wood. Vac and wipe the dust up before using the shower

DON'T FORGET!!! Seal the insert/hole well to prevent water intrusion for a long lasting job.
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I had the exact same problem, and I had tile on the ceiling of my show stall and would drill with conventional bits and barely scratch the surface. What I ended up doing was getting a pack of tile bits from lowes or HD that had the triangle shaped head and also ordered one of the following (scoll down the page - they are the hollow bits - a tube with the diamond filings on the end):

http://www.diamond-drill-bit-and-too...Drill/MAIN.htm

I used the triangle heads to score the tile, drilling until I had a hole the diamond bit would fit into. Then I switched to the diamond bit. Probably took 2 minutes per hole. I did buy the cutting fluid. You don't need much of the concentrate. I do like the looks of the diamond tip trianble shaped head. Might give it a try.
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find this style in 3/16th and you will be done in 2 mins per hole or less..





I just did the exact same job and 6 holes 10 mins max...


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this is like the bit i use.the one i buy is a little better quality than that one but cost a bunch more.that one should work fine.
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