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Old 03-30-2008, 08:28 PM
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you dont have to kill him by shooting him...a non lethal shot could have stopped him...if an addict it would have imprisioned him and possibly got him the help he needed...Even police officers are trained to stop a person with non lethal force...
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Even police officers are trained to stop a person with non lethal force...
Like everyone else is trained to do?
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you dont have to kill him by shooting him...a non lethal shot could have stopped him...if an addict it would have imprisioned him and possibly got him the help he needed...Even police officers are trained to stop a person with non lethal force...
That sounds good at the Country Club or the Democratic Convention but fact is police search a house with guns because it very DANGEROUS. There are many items that are and can be used as weapons in a house. Police are NOT trained to shoot someone in a non lethal spot, if you shoot, you shoot center of mass to stop the threat. As far as treatment most Crackheads are like most Alcoholics (street types) they dont want treatment. It is nice to have warm and fuzzy thoughts about helping people on drugs and there is a place for that. When bad guys break into ur house at night, they know someone will be home. They either have very bad intentions or have made a concious decision that they dont care about the risk of entering a man's house....
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When I was 17, I still lived with my parents (like most kids) and owned a .357. Heard noices in the house late one night and assumed an intruder. Got up, grabbed weapon and to make a long story short, almost shot my Father! Point I'm making is you must ID your target. Today, I'm a career Soldier, having fought in Panama, Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom. I've trained with numerous weapons, having fired tens of thousands of rounds up to 25 mm in size. There are people on this site who are truly amazing fishermen because of the time and effort they've put into their craft. I applaud you for sharing your story. Like fishing advice, this can and will assist others. Most people not accustomed to this type of situation would have hesitated. I think you did the right thing and would definitely relook my home security system(s) if in your situation. On the other hand, I would have put 2 in his chest!!!
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On the other hand, I would have put 2 in his chest!!!
Where would you have placed the 3rd, 4th and 5th shots?
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Hidden keys are never really hidden and I will bet he found it a few days before had a copy and put it back when I bought my house I went out and bought a lock system that is combination.. the Kwikset Maximum Security
Satin Nickel Maximum Security Electronic Keypad Powerbolt 1000 Door Lock. I also have a dead bolt that you can only see and lock from the inside along with a bullmastiff and a boxer it makes it very hard for anyone to get in
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Dead men tell no tales-----if you shoot him and hit him----that better be the end of it......
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Sorry dead fellow, but you were in my house going through my wifes purse and I pulled the trigger on my gun without any hesitation.

I know you can't account for your actions anymore, but I can account for mine. The law gives me this right to protect my property and you should have thought about that before you came in here.

Nuff said!

BTW: If I'm ever in this situation there is no way I want shoot this person and no way I will shoot this person just to wound him or disable him. If I pull the trigger one time, I'll pull it as many times as necessary to make sure he dies on or in my property. No way in our legal system, I'd ever give him the right to live and testify about nothin: whatever his reasons for being there, or find me liable for his harm and me have to pay for his continued care as a diabled citizen.

If I get the drop on one like that he's going to see Gabriel.
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Unfortuntally is best not to shoot, espically if you shoot them in the back. We all say we would blow his $%^& off, but when it really comes down to it,,could we really do it. It would be something you would have to live with the rest of your life. Do not get me wrong, there is a loaded gun under my bed, my son has one in his room too. Did you ever figure how he got in ? did he "bump" the lock open ?
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Unfortuntally is best not to shoot, espically if you shoot them in the back. We all say we would blow his $%^& off, but when it really comes down to it,,could we really do it. It would be something you would have to live with the rest of your life. Do not get me wrong, there is a loaded gun under my bed, my son has one in his room too. Did you ever figure how he got in ? did he "bump" the lock open ?
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Louisiana has a "shoot the burgular" law.

And yes, by all means, let the intruder go peacefully and freely into to the night so the next time he can break into your friends, parents or childrens house.
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Wow. Don't know how I missed this. Your story gives me the creeps....but I think you handled it appropriately. Definitely purchase an alarm with a monitoring service and get rid of the hidden key.

If this happened to me, I would have shit my pants first, than I don't know what I would have done. Fight or flight is hard to predict. I don't own any weapons and considering he was inside and it was 1:00 am...makes it all the more scary. The fact that the guy had the cajones to enter your house at 1:00 am knowing that someone was home, makes him a very dangerous/unpredictable individual.

My only experience with something remotely similar is about 8 years ago when I walked outside at night to find someone dangling half in and half out of my Jeep's window. The guy was 10 feet away and I yelled "Heh" and he took off down the street. Like a complete fool, I ran after him , caught up to him and grabbed him by the scruff of his neck only to find out he was a 16 year old punk.

I yelled at him and asked him what he was looking for and he said " nothing, I was just looking". Then I made him empty his pockets (empty) and than I made him tell me his name (He did and was visibly shaking). I told him that I knew his parents (I didn't) and that if i ever saw him near my house again, he would be in trouble. I then let him go.

In hindsight....I would never do that again. Can you imagine if he had a knife or perhaps a gun...I would be dead.
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you dont have to kill him by shooting him...a non lethal shot could have stopped him...if an addict it would have imprisioned him and possibly got him the help he needed...Even police officers are trained to stop a person with non lethal force...
If you only wounded him then he probably would have sued you for all you are worth for inflicting pain. Why take the chance on losing all your savings
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I might have hesitated shooting the burglar in the back.

I would not have hesitated shooting my dog for being a lousy watch dog.



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Old 04-10-2008, 08:32 PM
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Shooting the dog crossed my mind. Had anyone asked me before this happened what I would have done, I would have said the same thing most of you did - that I would have shot him. I am familiar with my firearm and I shoot it and others a lot - literally thousands of rounds a year. I know and work with a lot of LE officers, and have discussed similar scenarios with many of them before this happened. I had a plan already in mind. I was probably as prepared as anyone who has never before been in this situation. I can not stress how quickly this went down. The thought never crossed my mind to shoot to wound before he got out of the house - the sights never left the middle of his back. I did not shoot him because the scenario I had rehersed in my mind did not play out in actuallity, and my mind could not react fast enough to compensate. I expected him to turn, and when he did not, he was gone before I could really react. I have wondered if he will come back, or if he will break into someone else's house, possibly hurting me, or my wife, or someone else. If that happens, yes, I will regret not shooting him between the shoulder blades. I don't think you can really prepare yourself for this situation. My wife woke me from a dead sleep in the middle of the night, in a dimly lit house - the first time down the hall, I was on edge - the second time down the hall, I did not dream I would find something. Give yourself not more than one second to decide if you are going to shoot someone in the middle of the back who you can not identify. So far, I am content with my reaction. We lost $80, made our house a safer place to live, and did not have to endure any scrutiny from the law enforcement community. We are sleeping pretty well at night, and the lab and I have made up and are looking forward to next duck season.
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