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1995 - 2000 Toyota Tacoma ownes READPosted March 16, 2008 07:37 PM Toyota has just started a program to inspect the frames for rot through.There has been a few hundred cases. If you live in the snow belt or near the ocean have them inspected.... I looked at one last week , it failed, it had 196,000 miles on it. What will Toyota do ?........... they take the Kelly blue book and figure the MAX value (it does not matter if the truck is a piece of crap or in great condition ) then they multiply that by 1.5 ( in other words if the book value is $10,000 you will get a check for $15,000) then if you buy another Toyota truck they will give you another check for $1,000 , if you buy a Toyota car you get a check for $500. You will be put into a rental car (Toyota will pay for the rental) You will STRONGLY be told you can not take the truck , take the rental its safer... The expected time it will take is about 30 days. Guessthey are trying to save a class action suit and making them look like heros.....
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A1 Outboard - 3/17/2008 9:30 PM 1995 - 2000 Toyota Tacoma ownes READPosted March 16, 2008 07:37 PM Toyota has just started a program to inspect the frames for rot through.There has been a few hundred cases. If you live in the snow belt or near the ocean have them inspected.... I looked at one last week , it failed, it had 196,000 miles on it. What will Toyota do ?........... they take the Kelly blue book and figure the MAX value (it does not matter if the truck is a piece of crap or in great condition ) then they multiply that by 1.5 ( in other words if the book value is $10,000 you will get a check for $15,000) then if you buy another Toyota truck they will give you another check for $1,000 , if you buy a Toyota car you get a check for $500. You will be put into a rental car (Toyota will pay for the rental) You will STRONGLY be told you can not take the truck , take the rental its safer... The expected time it will take is about 30 days. Guessthey are trying to save a class action suit and making them look like heros.....
They should stop fronting and acting like they care and let some lawyers get in on the action and make some money in a class action that will probably give back less to the consumer.
What absurdness, a manufacturer trying to step up and do the right thing for their mistakes, they should do like Ford and wait for astate to sue thembefore taking any action, lets throw in burnt garages that Ford just shrug their shoulders at. I mean come on....that's how amnufacturer should do things.
And really, frame failure at 196,000 miles...
Get a Ford and then you can replace the trannyafter 100000miles.
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Boxed truck frames, boxed trailer frames both have the same problem. It's difficult to coat the inside of the box. I'll stick with my flexible C-channels. Corrosion or not, flexible C-channels make for a better ride for those of us who don't tow every day.
If you think the frame problems are bad, what about the valve lock problems on that new Tundra motor. I've heard they're having to replace a lot of engines before the first oil change.
I'm not trying to say Toyotas are bad trucks, they're just subject to all of the same problems everybody esle's trucks are. However, those same problems sure cost a lot more to fix.
My buddy has a 05' 4Runner and the engine self exploded at 60k. It was out of warranty and Toyota stepped up and put in a brand new engine.
He had to pay for some misc. parts but it only cost him 1200.00 by the time it was done. I think Toyota is doing the right thing.. Try getting a boat Manufacturer to fix something after the warranty is up.. Screw that, some won't even fix it with the warranty still in effect.
I drive Fords because I like them. They do go in the shop for silly crap that breaks but I also had a new 5 series BMW and that thing was in the shop all the time...
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Toyota had begun receiving a few reports from customers that excessive corrosion was occurring on the frames of some older Tacoma pickups, specifically 1995 to 2000 models. The Japanese automaker determined that during this half decade of production, some Taco frames may not have received the kind of corrosion protection from the factory that's needed to withstand harsh climes, especially ones where salt is used to deice roadways. While there is no recall and Toyota says that the number of instances where it has found rust go beyond the surface of the frame to penetrate the metal is small, the automaker is pulling an unorthodox move and doing something about anyway.
Toyota is extending the rust perforation warranty on all 1995-2000 Tacoma pickups, some 813,000 units, to 15 years from the original date of purchase, AND you don't have to be the original owner, or the second or the third even. Anyone who owns a Tacoma from this era and finds rust perforation on the frame can have his or her truck officially inspected for rust damage, in which case Toyota will either repair or buy back the truck regardless of its condition. Owners will start receiving letters by mid-March, and those who don't can visit a dealership for a free inspection.
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Actually it sounds like they're stepping up to the plate and taking care of their customers BIG time with the buy back you mentioned......and they didn't even wait until they were forced to do a recall either by class action suit or government edict.
Would GM or Ford give you 150% of a vehicles max bluebook regardless of overall condition in a circumstance like this?
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I had a 2006 Toyota Tacoma. Had issues. The dealer didnt step up, and Toyota didnt step up. How come I never have these feel good experiences? I dumped it.
PS Read about the new TUNDRA reliability in Consumer Reports. Sometimes the PERCEPTION of reliability vastly exceeds the REALITY. Not a bash, but Toyota has gotten big. Just like the others. The means converge. Buy a Ford Chevy or Toyota. All pretty good.
Actually it sounds like they're stepping up to the plate and taking care of their customers BIG time with the buy back you mentioned......and they didn't even wait until they were forced to do a recall either by class action suit or government edict.
Would GM or Ford give you 150% of a vehicles max bluebook regardless of overall condition in a circumstance like this?
Yep, you'll NEVER see the U.S. big three doing this which probably has something to do with their miserable sales of late and their slow demise as compared to the Japanese auto makers.
So an 8 year old truck withh 200K miles, that has salt all over it in the worst part of the US corrodes, and Toyota steps up to give owners 1.5x what its worth?
Well if you read more about this they say that only a few trucks are thought to have any major damage. If they find major damage they can repair or buy your truck back. I did not see how they determine value of these few trucks also how much are they going to hit you for while they have your truck. You know the spill, I see your at 75,000 miles and its time for that $400.00 dollar tune up and fluid change. Oh, while we were checking on your frame which is just fine we noticed that XYZ is bad and we recomend that you replace that part ASAP. It is only $675.00 to replace that part. I think its a marketing ploy as much as its a safty check.
Well if you read more about this they say that only a few trucks are thought to have any major damage. If they find major damage they can repair or buy your truck back. I did not see how they determine value of these few trucks also how much are they going to hit you for while they have your truck. You know the spill, I see your at 75,000 miles and its time for that $400.00 dollar tune up and fluid change. Oh, while we were checking on your frame which is just fine we noticed that XYZ is bad and we recomend that you replace that part ASAP. It is only $675.00 to replace that part. I think its a marketing ploy as much as its a safty check.
I have welded rusted frames on Ford rangers,Toyota pickups, Nissans and Mazdas, I have a Rodeo that was just dropped off to repair a rusted frame just behind the rt. front tire. They all rust on Cape Cod.
My 2002 Tundra's transmission blew at 3 years and 6 months and 63,000 miles. Toyota stepped up to the plate and said I could pay for all the repair ($3200). Got it fixed, sold it, bought a Chevy pickup and haven't looked back since.
In a way I'm glad it is not the Tundra's that are affected as I have a 2004, 77,000 miles and not one single issue whatsoever and just yesterday I had 4 new shocks put in for that nice, stiff ride again. I wuv my twuck and I'd be torn over having to get the new, huge Tundra, compared to my 04, that truck is big.
At least here in MA, I know that the vast majority do not wash or even rinse their undercarriages in the winter to get the salt or whatever chemicals they are using to treat the roads nowadays and this winter was one of the worst for all the crap they had to lay on the roads, so of course there has to be accelerated wear on every car up this way. People wash the top but it is the bottom that really needs it, heck, cars in junkyards still have great paint jobs so . . . . I go through great lengths to drag my hose out of the garage/basement and rinse my trucks bottom off a few days after every storm once all the roads dry and I think it has to help even a little. Even if I had to pay the $2.50 at the self serve H/P rinse-off joint, I would.
Still good to see Toyota offering 1.5x a trucks worth, if this is indeed accurate.
Nothing seems to rot out faster in this area than a Ford. Two years ago, my neighbors '94 F-150 was rotted so bad he had to junk it. 12 years old and it was gone. Now, my buddy's 9 year old F-150 has holes through it. Meanwhile, my '94 Corrolla has a really tiny little spot of rust just starting to show. If I didn't point it out to you, you probably wouldn't notice.
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So Toyota builds a great Truck 
I mean come on....that's how amnufacturer should do things. 
plus it was $2500 and not "fatal".
