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The following was sent to me in jest by one of my correspondents who got if from a Marine correspondent of his. There is a lot of truth in this: a comparison of the AK-47 to the AR-15 (M16) to the 1891 Moisin-Nagant rifles.
AK: It works though you have never cleaned it -- ever.
AR: You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
MN: It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945. Maybe.
AK: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
AR: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
MN: You can hit the barn from two counties over.
AK: Cheap magazines are fun to buy.
AR: Cheap magazines melt.
MN: What's a magazine?
AK: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
AR: You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
MN: What's a safety?
AK: Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
AR: Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
MN: Your rifle has four dog collars tied end-to-end.
AK: Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
AR: Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
MN: Your bayonet is longer than your leg.
AK: You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can ever hit it.
AR: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
MN: You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.
AK: When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
AR: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
MN: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
AK: Recoil is manageable, even fun.
AR: What's recoil?
MN: Recoil is often used to relocate shoulders thrown out by the previous shot.
AK: Your sight adjustment goes to "10", and you've never bothered moving it.
AR: Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
MN: Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.
AK: Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR: Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
MN: Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.
AK: Your rifle won some revolutions.
AR: Your rifle won the Cold War.
MN: Your rifle won a pole vault event.
AK: You paid $350.
AR: You paid $900.
MN: You paid $59.95.
AK: You buy cheap ammo by the case.
AR: You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
MN: You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.
AK: You can intimidate your foe when you fix bayonet.
AR: Your can give your foe a good laugh when you fix your bayonet.
MN: You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.
AK: Service life, 50 years.
AR: Service life, 40 years.
MN: Service life, 100 years, and counting.
AK: It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes.
AR: You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper.
MN: You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54R.
AK: You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
AR: You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith and it's under warranty!
MN: If your rifle breaks, you can buy a new one.
AK: You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames.
AR: You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group.
MN: You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4.
AK: After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn".
AR: After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down".
MN: After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor.
AK: You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.
AR: Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.
MN: Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
AK: Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint.
AR: Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers.
MN: Your rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails.
AK: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
AR: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner.
MN: You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin.
AK: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
AR: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
MN: Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the yard to sleep in.
I have them all 3 aks 2 ars and 6 molsins 2m44s 2 finnish and 2 russ, you forgot to add that most molsins were used as walkin sticks, and most barrels are so black and pitted that you couldnt hit a barn if you were in it, but if you get one that was put away in a cave some 60yrs ago and wrapped in cosmo, you got a gun that will shoot good out to 1000yrds all day long or at least till you break your sholder shooting it
Marine Corps Rules:
1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
2. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough.
3. Have a plan.
4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work.
5. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4."
7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
8. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral & diagonal preferred.)
9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
10. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
13. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating your intention to shoot...
Navy SEAL's Rules:
1. Look very cool in sunglasses.
2. Kill every living thing within view.
3. Adjust Speedo.
4. Check hair in mirror.
US Army Rangers Rules:
1. Walk in 50 miles wearing 75-pound rucksack while starving.
2. Locate individuals requiring killing.
3. Request permission via radio from "Higher" to perform killing.
4. Curse bitterly when mission is aborted.
5. Walk out 50 miles wearing a 75-pound rucksack while starving.
US Army Rules:
1. Curse bitterly when receiving operational order.
2. Make sure there is extra ammo and extra coffee.
3. Curse bitterly.
4. Curse bitterly
5. Do not listen to 2nd Lieutenants. They can get you killed.
6. Curse bitterly.
US Air Force Rules:
1. Have a cocktail.
2. Adjust temperature on air-conditioner.
3. See what's on HBO.
4. Ask "What is a gunfight?"
5. Request more funding from Congress with a "killer" Power Point presentation.
6. Wine & dine 'key' Congressmen, invite DOD & defense industry executives.
7. Receive funding, set up new command and assemble assets.
8. Declare the assets "strategic" and never deploy them operationally.
9. Hurry to make 1345 tee-time.
10. Make sure the base is as far as possible from the conflict but close enough to have tax exemption.
US Navy Rules:
1. Go to Sea.
2. Drink Coffee.
3. Deploy Marines.
4. Watch Porn.
no I had to look long and hard to find 6 good ones when buying one allways bring a barrel light, and ck to make sure the numbers match on the bolt to the gun, you can buy some very nice never fired m44s for great prices out there the only bad thing is that you will have to clean the cosmo out of it if you want to call it cosmo, they had there own resipe for making it back then and its some sticky stuff, the m44 is a shorter version of the nagant shorter barrel, but there were over 4 million of them made so quite a few have made it thru in great shape. sog ( southern ohio gun0) usually have good deals on unused ones, O one last thing all the ammo for these things is corrosive so after every time shooting you need to pull the bolt and spry the bolt and barrel down good with a 75% vinager and water soultion then clean with the norm cleaning solutions, cthomps my brother who lives in fort myers has about 100 nagants all in great shape and hand picked if you really want one E-mail me at reelnative@earthlink.net and I will put you in touch with him
I have a few MNs. They are something else. Three or four parts are numbered - and none of those numbers match. It is like someone just grabbed a rifle from pile A, a bolt from pile B, and so on. One of my rifles was made in the famous Tula plant. At least the barrel and receiver was. The bolt - who knows where that came from.
I heard Century bought them from Russia and other Eastern Block nations as "cord wood", and then imported them as rifles. They were sold not for their value as a rifle, but as scrap metal and wood for a furnace.
On the other hand, I got a few unfired Yugo SKS rifles. And some Yugo unfired 8mm Mausers. Those are nice. The MNs I have range from fair to good condition. The unfired guns were in like new condition.
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I've got a Romanian AK, a Yugo mauser, and a Bushmaster but this is still my favorite.
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Marine Corps Rules:
1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
2. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough.
3. Have a plan.
4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work.
5. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4."
7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
8. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral & diagonal preferred.)
9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
10. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
13. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating your intention to shoot...
You forgot one:
14. The purpose of a handgun is to fight your way to a rifle.
__________________ If it ain't broke; don't break it.
Thanks Skeeter thats a keeper I am gonna send it on.
Ans Stanleywinthrop - that is also so true. Have so many friends in the Navy, I gotta send the Navy and Navy Seal one on!!! The closest to anything like that I ever heard was while processing out of Nam one of our Batallion Commanders read us the Rules of retirement for Nam Vets or somehting like that - I am paraphrasing but it was something like
Air Force
Go Home write a book about your heroics
Navy
Go Home write abook about your heroics
Marines
Go Home - Join VVW, American Legion, Marine Corps League, get Bumper stickers, get Dress Blues march in Parades...
Army
go home , get drunk, get laid
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-Can Do........ and .......Carry On -
Comparison of AK, M-16, and Moisin-Nagant 
1st Cav Div Air Assault Infantry RVN
