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Old 01-30-2007, 01:40 PM
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A really dumb question from someone growing up in the volunteer military era...

So I'm ready for the fragging...

What goes into the numbering of the different battalions/units in the Army? For example, everyone knows about the 82nd Airborne and 101st. But is there a 73rd, a 1st?

You never hear about those units if they do exist. And if they don't why is the 82nd the 82nd?

Always curious and never knew.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:08 PM
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No scholar here but there is a 71st out of Ft Eustice VA. There is a high school in Fayetteville NC (Ft Bragg) named 71st High School. I have always wondered about the history on that one.
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Thats a good question. I've always wondered
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Not a dumb question at all. Here's your answer. At least for the Army. Maybe Chris, Reelwork will chime in with the Air Force side of it.

http://www.usapa.army.mil/pdffiles/r600_82.pdf
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:46 PM
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So, by my quick scan -- only so much government-ese someone can take at one sitting -- it looks like

1. the regiments were assigned numbers based on a variety of criteria, almost like cost centers in a budget.
2. It would seem that by the sequence gap that some numbers have been retired for many reasons -- some valorous, others by necessity.
3. Those numbers may designate specific duties/roles within a regiment.
4. And famous battalions like the 82nd and 101st, are like sports teams that build a culture, and because of how they're deployed, we know them more potentially because they might be first responders, etc.

Seem right?

If so, thanks fellow THTers for the education. Knew I came here for more than the 2-stroke/4-stroke comparisons, Trophy vs. Grady wars and the Sand Bar!

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One (and only) thing I can add is that the 82nd and 101st are divisions within the 18th Airborne Corps (also headquartered at Ft Bragg).

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Old 01-30-2007, 04:35 PM
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I just found the answer to my question and it has nothing to do with the military. I assumed that since they were in Fayetteville it did.

"71st High School takes its name from the community in the western part of Cumberland County, which since 1821 has been known as Seventy-First Township. The township was named by Scottish immigrants who were descendants of the 71st Regiment of the Scottish Highlanders. They fought a war of rebellion against the British in the 1700's but were defeated at the Battle of the Culloden Moore in 1746. After their lands were confiscated, their clan chiefs executed, and kilts and bagpipes outlawed, many of the Highlands Scots emigrated to North America and settled in the Sandhills of North Carolina. The school was established in the early 1900s in a small white building that currently sits behind the Classical Middle School."

Put that in your book of useless knowldege.
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Shag,
That may actually come in handy for me sometime. Then again maybe not.
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The Air Force uses Squadrons. The unit numbers are assigned in sequence also, but over the years, due to various reasons, there is no logical pattern anymore.
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Shag, thanks for the info. It'll come in handy for my next Cliff Claven session.

Ahhh, Naamie, the 71st Regiment of the Scawtish Highlandiz that was slattered by the British bastids in 1746. Betcha didn't know that didya. Yeah, the settled in Nawth Caroliner.

Coach, Woody, another beah heah. Karler, why dontcha come on ova and sit on my lap? Or higher if you feel like it?
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