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The first was an 18' inshore cat during a small craft advisory with 4 inexperienced guys......and I remember the weekend because I chose not to go out. Not exactly a definitive example. The 27' GB going down gets my attention a lot more. I agree the point is that people are dying and that is sad no matter what the type of craft.
This is a sad story. But what's even more sad is some folks trying to turn this into a mono vs. cat thing. Accidents happen, and a particular boat's design does not always cause the mishap. Fate shows no preference for either cats or monos......
This is a sad story. But what's even more sad is some folks trying to turn this into a mono vs. cat thing. Accidents happen, and a particular boat's design does not always cause the mishap. Fate shows no preference for either cats or monos......
I agree fully...and the cat/mono stuff is why I rarely respond to any post with a hint of that flavor......I think the stereotypical generalization in light of a man's death made me respond. I'm going back to my normal place on the sidelines of the tiring cat/mono topics......it fits my personalty much better!
So far, during this year's motorcycle rally, only 6 people killed in bike accidents. That is a relatively good number. Goes to prove that as long as people are living, bad things happen. Sympathies to the families.
Really didn't mean to start any kind of hull design debate just wanted to state the facts that of the 5 deaths off of the
Carolina's coast this spring there were similarities in the occurance & both were cat boats. These are facts that need to be looked at carefully. Anytime people die in similar circumstances this warrants taking a close look at the common denominators. I know that sea state was an issue on the 18' out of Ocean Isle, but the Murrells' Inlet boat, the weather wasn,t that extreme. I am full time delivery captain for several major yacht builders and was offshore in transit from Florida when I received the "pan pan" from C.G. on both occasions. Staying at the dock is not always an alternative for people who make there living on the water. By the way, how many times have you started out a bluebird day off the Carolina's only to end up with strong southerlies and following quarterlies on the way home with a boatload of fish and a tired crew. This is typical conditions for our region. If you want to fish here you need to expect this as well as having a vessel to handle it. Hopefully ego's wont stand in the way of a closer look at this issue as the facts are the facts. By the way as a 6th generation N.C. waterman I have never seen a Glacier Bay cross the bar in a full gail on a S.A.R. mission.
__________________ When offshore - The very best you can do is sorry enough.
it appears rare breed has spelled out the issue that it may be possible that the multi hull shallow draft may have unknown handling problems. i had a tri hull sailboat that was fine in the carrabean with fair winds but when a blow came up i headed to snug harbor. bluebird days usualy have a way of turning in to what the hell happend with the weather. sad event no less but two events in a short time usually spell look out for trouble i witness this many time with army aircraft.
__________________ Living in South Carolina, fishing any place. "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". G. Orwell
Yes, Super Suds had an EPIRB, but not an autodeploy model. EVen though, the autodeploy model would probably not have gone off. Most models require around 15' of water pressure to release the hydrostatic release. Bobby will be missed.
Rare Breed - 5/22/2006 5:03 AM .By the way, how many times have you started out a bluebird day off the Carolina's only to end up with strong southerlies and following quarterlies on the way home with a boatload of fish and a tired crew. This is typical conditions for our region. If you want to fish here you need to expect this as well as having a vessel to handle it. Hopefully ego's wont stand in the way of a closer look at this issue as the facts are the facts. By the way as a 6th generation N.C. waterman I have never seen a Glacier Bay cross the bar in a full gail on a S.A.R. mission.
Good points. With so many boats designed for the "Graveyard of the Atlantic" built in North Carolina, why experiment (and tempt Mother Nature) with others?
CAPT. BOB IS MY GRANDFATHER AND REGUARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOAT WHAT KIND OF HULL HE IS GONE AND ALL I KNOW IS THAT THE COAST GUARD COULD HAVE DONE MORE. MY FATHER IS THE ONE THAT FOUND THE FIRST SURVIVOR AND THEN HAD TO TELL THE COAST GUARD WHERE TO LOOK FOR THE REST . BUT ENOUHG OF THE COULD OF SHOULD OF WOULD OF STUFF CAPT BOB JUST NEEDS TO BE REMEMBERED FOR THE MAN HE WAS UP UNTIL HE DIED WHICH WAS TAKING CARE OF EVERYONE BUT HIMSELF THAT SHOULD SAY IT ALL
sorry about your grandfather. i think everyone who goes out in the ocean should remember this tragic accident. boaters should use all of there skills and knowledge. everyione should remember the uscg is and has been involved with enforcing laws concering illegal drugs, pollution and home land security. i have had several occasions to see this in action in south fl and the carribean. in the first incident the uscg told the capt of a sinking boat to get the coolers empty to use as flotation and they would send a salvage boat and instructed the salvager to report any pollution. the second time i was boarded near georgetown bahama for a drug search negative results.
__________________ Living in South Carolina, fishing any place. "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf". G. Orwell
I wonder how much of a factor speed was when this happened?
7 guys on a 27' boat seems like alot too!
I would think it would take alot for a 27 WC to capsize!
SPEED WAS NOT A FACTOR IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED. A ROAD WAVE HIT AND THERE WAS NO CORRECTING IT THE MEN COULD NOT HAVE DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT EXCEPT STAY HOME THAT DAY
with all due respect, how can you say that speed was not a factor or anything about the situation for that matter. I am sorry for your loss, but you and I don't know what happened.
I have a theory that most of the crew were on one side of the boat trying to stay dry, coming in on quatering following seas, and hit a wave wrong. The sponsons dug in and the boat took a sharp turn, breaking the cooler free and tossing whoever wasn't on one side to that side. At that point, another wave came and hit the boat at the wrong time and bam, the boat flips.
And I am not trying to be a prick, but 7 people, gear, ice and whatever else on any boat that size is not a good thing when venturing out 60 miles in an ocean.
Again sorry for your loss, but to say that nothing they could have done but stay home is wrong.
Re: Missing charter boat out of Murrells Inlet 
