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Old 07-09-2017, 08:40 PM   #21
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This one is close to home for all of us. I would really like to see all of those involved in the chain identified and arrested.
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Old 07-09-2017, 08:58 PM   #22
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This one is close to home for all of us. I would really like to see all of those involved in the chain identified and arrested.
Sure is one wolf. Other site states that the boat was rigged with the stolen motor right here in Lumberton.
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Old 07-09-2017, 09:48 PM   #23
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My boat was hit last year at Starling in MHC (one of many). It still bothers me, and this story haunts me. I am really troubled by the notion that the leads aren't being properly followed.

Where is this other thread being mentioned? I've searched and can't find anything other than the reward offered threads. Any reason not to link the thread where the dealer being called out here is posting? I'd like to read his version.
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My boat was hit last year at Starling in MHC (one of many). It still bothers me, and this story haunts me. I am really troubled by the notion that the leads aren't being properly followed.

Where is this other thread being mentioned? I've searched and can't find anything other than the reward offered threads. Any reason not to link the thread where the dealer being called out here is posting? I'd like to read his version.
http://saltwatercentral.com/ftopict-53989.html
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Old 07-09-2017, 11:15 PM   #25
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There are a lot of assumptions being made here without any of us knowing all the facts. I dont know any of the parties involved but hate to see anybody get accused of something they may not be involved in. Here's a link to the shop owners explanation.

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Something doesn't sound right. If Unlimited Boat Service had ANY stolen merchandise, the owner of UBS should have been collared for criminal possession of stolen property. At that point he would have given up, whomever brought him the property.
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Totally agree, something doesn't sound right. I have a hard time getting past this shop installing stolen property - period.

Also interesting that site mod on other site weighs in that shop owner is a great guy and then locks the thread....huh? See that on shop's social media presence family members giving lots of favorable input...hmmm.
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I have been down this road with a skid-steer loader 3 years ago. The loader was stolen from me. I filed a report with Wilmington PD, didn't hear anything for 14 months, insurance company paid off. I get a call one day from Wilmington PD. Mecklenburg Co Sheriffs Dept. had found my loader. The story I got was after it was stolen from me it was sold to an individual in Raleigh who a few months later traded it in on a newer one at a equipment dealer in Raleigh. The dealer then sold it to a construction company from Winston Salem. The loader while in use in Matthews NC struck a car, When the accident report was filed the loader's serial number came back as stolen.

I asked the detective who goes to jail. He said likely no one, everyone will claim they didn't know it was stolen. Since there is no title or registration involved, no one was legally bound to prove ownership when the loader changed hands. He said Prosecutors are reluctant to pursue these cases unless the thieves are caught in the act or in the case of a business they can establisdh a pattern of stolen property being bought and sold.

Unlimited Boat Service didn't do anything illegal. But they made two big mistakes, one was not covering their ass by checking serial numbers when the proline owner was bragging about his "Great Deal". The second and biggest mistake made was Mark trying to charge the OP for pulling the motor off the Proline. That is why the OP is pissed and is trashing them online. The shop should be recovering from the Proline owner. They could have been the hero.
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Well said Rick, knowing people who have dealt with UBS...this doesn't surprise me. I hope insurance pays out, and the OP gets back on the water soon. Best of luck.

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I have been down this road with a skid-steer loader 3 years ago. The loader was stolen from me. I filed a report with Wilmington PD, didn't hear anything for 14 months, insurance company paid off. I get a call one day from Wilmington PD. Mecklenburg Co Sheriffs Dept. had found my loader. The story I got was after it was stolen from me it was sold to an individual in Raleigh who a few months later traded it in on a newer one at a equipment dealer in Raleigh. The dealer then sold it to a construction company from Winston Salem. The loader while in use in Matthews NC struck a car, When the accident report was filed the loader's serial number came back as stolen.

I asked the detective who goes to jail. He said likely no one, everyone will claim they didn't know it was stolen. Since there is no title or registration involved, no one was legally bound to prove ownership when the loader changed hands. He said Prosecutors are reluctant to pursue these cases unless the thieves are caught in the act or in the case of a business they can establisdh a pattern of stolen property being bought and sold.

Boats Unlimited didn't do anything illegal. But they made two big mistakes, one was not covering their ass by checking serial numbers when the proline owner was bragging about his "Great Deal". The second and biggest mistake made was Mark trying to charge the OP for pulling the motor off the Proline. That is why the OP is pissed and is trashing them online. The shop should be recovering from the Proline owner. They could have been the hero.
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RickNC, it's Unlimited Boat Service...not Boats Unlimited.
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I don't think anyone is suggesting that UBS should go to jail. But it is simply irresponsible for the investigating entity not to follow the leads, which in this case is the owner of the boat who brought in his boat with a bunch of stolen equipment. Hello Mr. Lucky Deal, where did you buy your engine and all these lovely electronics, we'd like to visit them?

How hard is this?
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cops don't follow up on these crimes unless there are witnesses. They figure all will get insurance money and no one got killed or injured. Just white collar crime. the cops have violent crime issues to work on.
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cops don't follow up on these crimes unless there are witnesses. They figure all will get insurance money and no one got killed or injured. Just white collar crime. the cops have violent crime issues to work on.
It would not be hard to generate witnesses, if they just followed the bread crumbs. I was a homicide Det, I know how this is done. Seems to me, the local PD dropped the ball. All stolen property, should have been photographed, and documented, then returned to the rightful owner. Mr. "I got a great deal" should have been charged to remove the engine and collared for CPSP. Charges could have been dismissed, if he cooperates with the investigation and it leads to another collar.
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cops don't follow up on these crimes unless there are witnesses. They figure all will get insurance money and no one got killed or injured. Just white collar crime. the cops have violent crime issues to work on.
I think you mean property crime. White collar crime is something totally different.

Failure to investigate theft only leads to more theft. This one seems like they squandered a pretty great lead.
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Wow.
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Old 07-10-2017, 08:42 AM   #36
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UBS guys response on the other site. (sometimes links to other fishing sites get removed)

Not judging who did what, but it seems like a mess.


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Hello this is Mark DeNunzio the owner of Unlimited Boat Service. We are the shop that RECOVERED one of the Yamaha 250 outboard that was stolen with the Donzi 29ZF in Smithfield, NC (see post, Stolen donzi 29zf).

Amazing turn of events; 3 Boats, 3 Shops, 3 County’s
A couple of weeks ago one of our out of town customers came in with his freshly repowered Proline that was rigged at a large shop in Lumberton, NC. He was bragging about the great deal he got but was unhappy with the month they took to get his boat back and it still needed work. He wanted the network and fuel gauge working, change the duel control for a single rebuild the dash panel and install a used stereo.

Less than a week before the 4th of July one of our out of town customer brought in his skiff for a quick service. He is the owner of the stolen donzi, so I squeezed him in.

The two boats were parked in the middle of our packed yard back to back, about 10 feet apart. The Donzi owner and son came in early the next morning to do some upgrades to skiff. We talked as I finished up the service. I told them what a deal the Proline owner got for his repower. Little did we know that that was the motor from the donzi.

In our office, on the counter was the used stereo for the Proline. The son recognized the wiring colors and asked what boat it came from. So we checked the outboard serial number on the Proline and it matched the stolen motor.

After the police report, on Saturday I worked all night derigged the Proline so they would have everything when they went back home after the 4th. On Monday I helped load everything in their truck and thought everything was great.

Happy Ending
You would think there would be a happy ending to this, sadly no. The Donzi owner loses his huge insurance check, accuses me of stealing his motor and then steals from me by refusing to pay his bill. The Proline owner loses everything he paid for and his original running motor. I get cheated yelled at and my shop gets trashed for no good reason.

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Cops aren't interested because there is no profit in it for them. They can't get any assett forfeiture and can't give out big fines.

They are more interested in busting mom's for going 5 mph over the limit or seizing a car for a joint.

Same reason they don't like meth lab busts. No money there. Pot busts are much more profitable.
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UBS guys response on the other site. (sometimes links to other fishing sites get removed)

Not judging who did what, but it seems like a mess.
those threads over there got lucked up quick
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It would not be hard to generate witnesses, if they just followed the bread crumbs. I was a homicide Det, I know how this is done. Seems to me, the local PD dropped the ball. All stolen property, should have been photographed, and documented, then returned to the rightful owner. Mr. "I got a great deal" should have been charged to remove the engine and collared for CPSP. Charges could have been dismissed, if he cooperates with the investigation and it leads to another collar.
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cops don't follow up on these crimes unless there are witnesses. They figure all will get insurance money and no one got killed or injured. Just white collar crime. the cops have violent crime issues to work on.
Not boating related, but my wife's car was stolen a few years ago and the Raleigh City Police told us point blank that there is never an investigation into those types of crimes. They limit themselves to creating a police report and then logging the VIN number as stolen. Case is then closed until the stolen property shows up at some later date.
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