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Who else thinks the ACC screwed BC by sending them to Boise after finishing tied for first in the Atlantic and beating Virginia, Clemson and NC State(all of which received better bowls)?????
I loved theConference and enjoyed the competition. But is this the treatment we can expect in the future?
I am one of the few that really wouldn't mind it...it is about 2 hours from Sun Valley or Jackson Hole and I love to skieither placeagain. But since I spent all my "Good Daddy Points" chasing tuna this year, I can't go.
So I am looking at it as purely a football game rather than a chance to parley it into a vacation. And from a purely football sense, we got screwed!!!!
I agree that BC deserves a better bowl than the "battle of the blue field". I think that State was chosen to play in Charlotte based purely on fan attendence. NC State has pretty much always traveled well to bowl games. All about the $$$$$.......just like everything else.
the acc doen't decide who goes where it is up to the bowls themselves. they have contracts that they get the 1st 2nd or 3rd and so on pick from the league and they can chose whoever they want.
The Key to getting to better bowls is traveling well not where you finish in the conference. The bowls themselves are allowed the picks. 1st place goes to bcs, The Gator gets the next pick then the Peach then the Meineke tire or whatever it is in Charlotte and so on down the line. Some of the bowls like the Emerald and one of the others don't have ACC tie ins but their conferences couldn't fill the slots with eligible teams. The buzz on the radio talk shows here is that BC doesn't travel well and that is the reason that they are going to the Smurf Bowl. Last year UNC sold 50,000 tickets for the Tire bowl. Take that kind of crowd with you and you can go to any bowl you want.
The real fact is that there are way too many bowls and thats why you get credit for 1-AA wins, otherwise you would never be able to fill the slots.
BC wil get their due. Just think how much money they are going to get from their share of all of the bowl games plus the ACC basketball contract. Go to the Smurf bowl, have a good time and ski or whatever they do out there. Maybe they figured ya'll (youse guys) are just more used to that weather. Just hang in there and it will get better.
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I think BC got screwed (this coming from a big NC State fan), but i don't think it was the conference that screwed them. You've got a good team, though. You guys should do well in the bowl game.
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I think the whole system is stupid. Do a poll, coaches, reporters, whoever. Pick the top 8 teams. Have a three round "tournament". Viola', We have a winner. Throw in a consolation to be played just before the championship game for third place bragging rights if ya want to.
I guess it is about the $$$
I still get a chuckle when I hear people talk about the "Tire Bowl"
He11, lets get Kellogg's involved and have the "Cereal Bowl". America Standard is the proud sponsor of the "Toilet Bowl". And, coming to a stadium near you, Ziggy Marley sponsors the "Packed Bowl".
I agree with wolfpack, it's ALL about the money when it comes to bowl games. it's a shame. in terms of bowl games, i'd love to see a 16 or 8 team playoff!
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Who else thinks the ACC screwed BC by sending them to Boise after finishing tied for first in the Atlantic and beating Virginia, Clemson and NC State (all of which received better bowls)?????
I loved the Conference and enjoyed the competition. But is this the treatment we can expect in the future?
The ACC Conference Officials have very little to do with who goes to which bowl. Each individual "bowl" has its own representative body who votes on which teams will play in their big advertisement fiasco.
If you want to know what I think though, its time to cut out all of this corporate sponsorship and BCS bull$hit and institute a play off system. Why does it make any sense for the younger and slightly more resilient college athlete to only play eleven games a year while their professional counterparts play as many as twenty if they win the Super-advertisement/halftime show fiasco-bowl. I personally wouldn't give a rats a$$ for a bag of Doritos just because they sponsor the "This-and thatta FugFace Bowl." Its all a bunch of crap really. This bowl "system" has gotten blown so far out of proporsion--just another money making venture for so many corp. sponsors. Thirty bowls, out of which only three or so really mean anything??? Whats the point?
And the solution.....
Take the top sixteen teams, fill out a "bracket" just like you have in the NCAA Basketball tourney--1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, 3 vs 14, 4 vs 13, etc. First week of "Playoff Season" has eight games, second week has four games, third week has two games, and after a two week layoff, the National Championship game would be played on New Years day. Four additional weekends of College Football beginning the weekend after Thanksgiving, ending with a New Years day championship bowl game blow out party that would be watched by MORE people than watch the Super-crap-bowl.
This system would be great for several reasons.....
1. Chance for a "Cinderella" National Champion--we love it when it happens in the NCAA b-ball tourney, why not football.
2. Thirteen weeks of college football (two bye-weeks per team) followed by...
3. Conference championship weekend followed by...
4. Three weekends of college playoffs followed by...
5. The aforementioned "New Years day championship bowl game blow out party"
6. Equals EIGHTEEN WEEKS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL. How great would that be???
7. And the number one benefit of the new system--the national champion would have to win games week-in and week-out for almost five months. Only the team who can do that deserves to be called a national champion.
Beating the - Sorry, I will learn to watch my language -e out of your best in-conference competition 70 to 3, or 66 to 14 means only one thing. Your in-conference competition sux. Maybe Texas and USC are great teams. Winning games for five months straight would prove it.
p.s. The NFL sux.
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Thanks for the education. I assumed that the Conference had more say in who goes where since Swafford (sp?) said that he would not let a team tied for first go to Boise (he said that before FSU beat VT).
I am all in favor of a playoff. If everyone is going to 12 games next year, then why not go to 14 or 16 for just a hand full of teams? You can nottell me it is because the kids have to study. Less than 50% of them graduate anyway (which is a complete embarrassment on College Sports). Drop the word "College" and just call it Triple A NFL and be done with it.
I certainly understand that BC doesn't travel well. But who would travel well to Boise? In any case we would have a hard time bringing 50k people to a bowl..... even if it was in our home state like last year for UNC.
It will be fun cheering for other ACC teams in there respective bowls. I think the results will clearly show which conference is the best in the land....
It will be fun cheering for other ACC teams in there respective bowls. I think the results will clearly show which conference is the best in the land....
Mike
No doubt.
__________________ Mac Solo
1985 25' Parker Sou'Wester---2005 F250 Yamaha
What the heck makes you guys think bowl games have anything to do with playoffs or rankings or anything else besides money? That's why bowl games were spawned - have a post-season game in a community between good teams that will draw lots of fans (and their money). The real beauty of bowl games is the turnover of each dollar in the local community. There will probably never be a true playoff system because that would be a basic money loser across the board. What may change, however, is this ill-conceived concept of a "national champion" - no such real animal without a playoff (still based on "ranking", mind you). A couple of bowls will continue to invite highest ranking teams and tout it as the "national championship", but the real quantity of money will continue to be the satellite bowls. What's bastardized the whole bowl scene is the transition of "student athlete" to "school money maker who sometimes gets an education". The system won't change for the better until that changes back to "student who participates in athletics", if that were to ever happen.
Sorry, BC, you just don't have a big enough following to generate enough money to be of interest; the fact that you have a decent team is irrelevant ...
And, coming to a stadium near you, Ziggy Marley sponsors the "Packed Bowl".
Now there's a bowl we'd like to see! Played in Negril, Jamaica. Heckuva halftime show, if they remember to show up! Trophy would be a great big - - - nevermind. "No problem, mon!"
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I'd love to be in Boise. Be the 1st team to win on blue turf and break the 32 game win streak. Boise State has a good team too. The only bad thing about Boise is the airfare; $650 roundtrip from Raleigh for 1. I was already making plans. I've been to Atlanta when NCSU took 30,000+ and to Jacksonville when there was around 50,000 NCSU fans there vs. ND. I've also seen about 14,000 NCSU fans vs. Pitt in Orlando and about 10,000 vs. Minn. in Miami. A lot depends on who you play and what kind of year your team had. I'm expecting about 35,000 NCSU fans in Charlotte and the total will be in the 50,000's probably with UCF bring about 5000. I know there will be many NCSU fans on the UCF sideline. The Wolfpack club only has corner and endzone seats for most members or ticket buyers and one can buy and ticket from UCF and sit at the 50 for standard pricing. Lots of scalpers own tickets on the ACC side of the field; wait late and they'll be giving deals.
ACC Screws BC??? 
