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Old 04-11-2005, 01:51 PM
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I purchased a Pioneer 197 a couples of months ago and have had it out in the ocean 5 times. I have a Yamaha 150 four stoke. Top speed so far has been 37 MPH @ 4,700 RPM. What should the max MPH and RPM for the Yamaha 150 be on this boat. I will be taking it back to the dealer for my break in service checkup. Just wanted to hear from some other Pioneer 197 owners. I love the boat and it has already exceeded my handling expectations. Thanks in advance.
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That engine should be spinning right up to 6000 ROM at WOT which will probably translate to around 46 or 48 MPH or so. It sounds like you have the wrong prop on that boat, I would try a Yamaha Performance Series 14.25" X 18 stainless steel wheel. What are you turning now?
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if your only spinning 4700 rpms you are needing a smaller prop.you should be in the 5700 to 6000 rpm range.
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I have a Turbo SS prop and get 5800 and 48 MPH on my F150. What color did you get? Mine is blue.
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Are you trimming the engine up after planning off?
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:11 AM
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I'v got a 175
Love it BTW
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Old 04-16-2005, 08:36 PM
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My wife and I took a test ride in a 197 w/ 150 hp yamaha... top speed was just a little over 50mph. Since we're comparing and shopping for a CC... how satisfied are you with your 197? My wife fell in love with the one we test drove this afternoon... I also was quite impressed, but it seemed a little pricey compared to the other CC in that size range. It is a well thought out boat, and hands down more impressive than the Robalo we also rode in today. All advice and comments appreciated....
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:06 PM
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dphelps, I was also at the boat show today. I took the family out to ride in the boat, but I have actually already purchased one for myself from Choplin. Can't say enough about the people there and this boat. I am not sure who you talked to there, but Jennifer is extremely knowledgible about these boats and is also as honest as they come in this business. It has been a pleasurable experience thus far. No pressure and no dishonesty at all.

My 197 is white rigged with yamaha 4stroke 150, full curtain set, dual axle trailer, all garmin electronics (GPSMAP 172C and 250FF) Pioneer CD Player and ICOM 402S.

All options on this boat are considered standard from them and are not by most all others. All SS fittings, finish is incredible, hydraulic steering, step ladder, leaning post with 30 gal livewell, raw water washdown, etc etc...I guess my point is that when you are comparing prices with similar boats, you will have to pay more to get their 'standard' options on the Pioneer...

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Old 04-19-2005, 03:57 AM
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I purchased my Pioneer 197 from Choplin Marine. I have 15 hours on the Yamaha 150 four stroke. Jennifer has been an excellent salesperson to deal with and also Paul Eagle. I have the yellow hull color. I have a Sola 14 x 19 stainless steel prop. I get out of the hole and up on plane fairly quick, but no top end speed. I had it out yesterday and all I could get out of it with two people on board was about 39 to 40 MPH (without any trim) and the RPM was only about 4900. I love the boat and it handles better than I ever expected. I purchased the three sided curtains with the spray shields, and belive me that has been well worth the money.
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Old 04-19-2005, 07:20 AM
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Have you talked to Paul about your top end issue? Something doesn't seem right about that...prop size?

Paul is one of their riggers and I assume he is the one that did yours.

Where do you fish?
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I fish out of Morehead City most of the time and I will travel tp James River in Virginia when the croakers are running. I mostly target False Albacore, Bonito, Spanish, Kings, and some trout. I was in the ocean, out at Morehead City yesterday and the water temp has dropped from 62 degrees last week to 57 degrees. It needs to warm before the fishing starts to improve.
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Sounds good man..I fish out of Morehead as well. Will be nice to see another fellow Pioneer owner out there on the water.

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Sea Hunt 202 with Yamaha 150hp 4 stroke. Top out at 54mph at about 5900 during sea trial on friday
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Sounds good man..I fish out of Morehead as well. Will be nice to see another fellow Pioneer owner out there on the water.

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Do you happen to own the yellow 17' Pioneer at Anchorage Marina?
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Old 04-20-2005, 01:42 PM
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Nah, not me. I have the 197 model white. Picking it up today in Sanford.
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Nah, not me. I have the 197 model white. Picking it up today in Sanford.
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Old 04-20-2005, 02:26 PM
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The Sea Hunt 202 with optional equipment exactly the same as the Pioneer was quoted at $3000 less. I like the fit and finish of the Pioneer but overall I like the layout and value of the Sea hunt. I'll be picking up the Sea Hunt on Friday. But I must add that the Pioneer is a very good looking boat.
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Old 04-23-2005, 10:10 PM
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JJohn24 - My wife and bit the bullet and bought a 197 today from Choplin. We purchased the fighting lady yellow boat that was at the Raleigh boat show last weekend. Paul and Chris had a pretty good day... took my wife's sister and her husband and they also bought a 197... the white one without the t-top. I'm shopping for the electronics now... any suggestions? I'm leaning towards Garmin GPS and Fishfinder... not sure about the VHF yet. Now I just have to sell a 2001 Ford Ranger, 1996 Honda Civic and a 1990 Dodge Ramcharger before my wife will let me bring the boat home! Our yard looks like a used car lot and there's no room to park the boat. And Paul wasn't interested in taking any of them in on trade!

Looking forward to head east soon... can't wait to get it in the water.

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Ya'll know Wheels and Keels is a Pioneer dealer in Cape Carteret Emerald Isle area.
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Old 05-02-2005, 09:06 PM
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My wife and I picked up our Pioneer 197 Friday afternoon... I spent the day Saturday installing VHF and AM/FM/CD in the overhead console, (which ain't as big as I thought, but everything fit nicely). On Sunday we took the boat to Jordan Lake for a few hours. We have a Yamaha 150 2 stroke w/ 21" prop... our top speed with 6 adults on board was 47 mph at 5000 rpm. I didn't check the GPS speed since I still learning how that works, (ESTO issue). This is the same boat that Choplin Marine had at the Lake Wheeler boat show a few weekends ago. You might want to check your prop size... sounds like you may have a 19" or less.

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