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If someone pulls a gun on you and you are in fear of you life, you can shoot them. but you would have a hard time explaining why you had a gun on you at a party where you were most likely consuming alcohol.
But i agree with AfterGolf, you should always be packing. I don't go anywhere with less than my 45.
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Problem with packing in a situation like this.......she trys to rob you, you shoot her. You're the one that most often goes to prison.
In NC thats for sure the case... Dumbest laws there could be on the books here unless your part of the protecting force.. Then anything is allowed.
20 years at the Lake and you guys that live down there remember when there was a rash of Robberys just getting into town off 74 right after the bridge at those first 5 to 6 stop lights.. People were being held up waiting on the lights to change. They got that attended to quick but went on for at least half a year back in the 80's but by the river front has always been tough love area. Pulled tank out of that area back in the early/mid 80s and you want it, it can be bought around there. If they didn't have it Let them know, they'll get back to you when they do.
Those two won't see the streets for a while and agree with NCcarguy but before you hit or pull a gun make sure your ready for the ride that goes along with it. You hit anyone now in NC you will surrender your guns for at least 18 months, do probation, and watch out for that 48 hour cool down law..
Been there done that so know what your getting into when you do.
Shoot someone buckle your seat belt real tight....
Judged by 12 beats carried by 6 but living with 180 other men three meals a day is not my idea of second option.
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I drink alcohol in my house because I live there and I have a gun in my house because I live there, what is there to explain?
"Excerpted from the North Carolina, Concealed Carry Handgun Training Manual, Published by the North Carolina Justice Academy, Written by Inst. Steve Johnson:
1) North Carolina Common Law
Use of force to protect a person (1) Justified Self-Defense
A citizen is legally justified in using deadly force against another only if: (a) The citizen actually believes deadly force is necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault and (b) The facts and circumstances prompting that belief would cause a person of ordinary firmness to believe deadly force was necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault, and (c) The person using deadly force was not an instigator or aggressor who voluntarily provoked, entered, or continued the conflict leading to deadly force, and (d) Force used was not excessive - greater than reasonably needed to overcome the threat posed by a hostile aggressor. (2) Duty To Retreat Before Using Deadly Force Unless and exception such as those listed below applies, a citizen must retreat before using deadly force if retreat is possible.
Exception A. There is no duty to retreat before using deadly force if the assault threatens imminent death or great bodily harm - a murderous or felonious assault or sexual assault.
Exception B. There is no duty to retreat before using deadly force if the victim is on his or her own premises, or on his or her business premises, or is at home. (4) Deadly Force in Defence of Others
A Citizen may intervene and use deadly force in defence of another person when, under the facts and circumstances, it reasonably appeared necessary to save the other person from imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault but only to the extent the other person was entitled to use deadly force in self-defence. (5) Deadly Force MAY NOT Be Used: (a) To Stop a Simple Assault.The exact point in time a simple assault becomes deadly is often unclear. Repeated blows to vital body areas, choking, continued beating on a helpless or weakened victim, are some indicators. (b) Because of the Use of Violent Language § 14-277.1. Communicating threats. (c) Because You Are a Victim of Past Violence and Fear Future Violence (d) Because a Trespasser Refuses to Leave (e) To Arrest a Criminal or to Prevent a Criminal's Escape b. Use of force to protect property
The law does not permit the use of deadly force solely to protect property, or to prevent theft, or to regain stolen property. An owner CANNOT shoot at a thief - before, during, or after a theft. The same rule prohibits deadly force to prevent injury or vandalism to property. A different rule applies if life is imminently threatened at the same time property is taken. Deadly force used to prevent an armed robbery is force used to protect life, not to protect property"
Liveaboard, if you truly do then you are probably a target, but I would not hesitate, if my life was in danger to pull the trigger. You need a better lawyer~
Thats kinda my point Bud and yes I totally agree with you. If it came down to it I would think we all would pull a trigger but no matter what the reason even if you only hit someone you'll be charged and its a head ache from H getting out of it.
Not our truck but another owners truck blew a motor... Dispatcher called us and ask us if there was any way to get his load back to Carolina.. I was husband and wife team running NW to Carolina only. . Wife took the truck on into Carolina from Iowa and I sat in the motel till the truck was fixed and brought the guys truck back in for the Broker. Wife met me with our car.. Did not know a lot about the guy but was helping the broker out.. I had called the guy and we agreeded on a price for me doing this and wife had cut the truck off and helping me get my few things out. Already delivered the load and brought the truck back to the guy empty. She had his keys in her hand. He came over and ask where the keys were, she said I have them and he told her to give them to him. She told him we needed to settle up and that was all she got out her mouth, he slammed her agenst the truck and was trying to take the keys away from here... I took him out..
He got off scott free, I had to pay his all his medicial bills, got 18 months probation and where the cops showed up they found the gun in the truck which was legal. .. He seen it told the cops I had pulled it on him and that set those boys on fire. Handcuffed both wife and I and had to pay to get the car out of storage... So much for protecting your wife and I stand by the first statement.. Be ready to take the ride when you do.....
I rest my case............
Did want to add of course we consulted a lawyer after the fact but he weighed out what the courts would look at and I would have come out better to let it rest. No gun was pulled but if the charge stuck that would have been a felony and I did lose my gun. DA offered the probation, pay is bills and the order to stay away from him which was not on my list to start with. Never got paid a dime and found out he was losing his trucks a few weeks later. He never had any intent to pay for our time..
Thats why I get so tickled at all the big talk about braking fingers, getting some friends to go after someone and to me the BS talk which will only get you in more trouble than you have ever thought you could..
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Last edited by liveaboard74; 05-12-2011 at 05:03 PM.
See 5a above. No shooting to stop a simple assault. Thats why you got into trouble. If someone points a gun at you in NC(like descibed by the original poster) and you shoot them you may have civil problems but you should not have legal prosecution problems. If the new "castle law" is passed and you are in your "home" and someone enters by force then you would be indemnified from civil and legal prosecution if you use deadly force. The law would assume they are there to do harm period.