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Old 04-18-2011, 02:16 PM
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World Wide Marine Training covers much of Sub Chapter T, "Small Passenger Vessels less than 100 gross tones, in the OUPV and Masters courses. I also provide consultation prior to getting an inspection (free) and get the USCG's Tboat checklist for the Mariner. Just had another "client" get inspected, no hitches took out his charter the next day, VERY pleased and greatful for the free advise, checklist, and classes.
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No way. Not even the USCG can agree from year-to-year what is necessary from "sub-chapter T" for application on COI vessels. The "requirements" seem to be a moving target that varies for unknown reasons.

I used to operate a COI vessel and the inspections were an absolute nighmare with no apparent rhyme or reason to what was required to pass the inspection. My boat could have been outfitted the exact same in 1998 and in 1999; 1998 would pass with flying colors.... and 1999 would have 14 deficiencies. Same inspector too. It was a horrible process.

My point is that there is no way that a vendor could assist the commercial boat operators with this USCG process because there is no standard.
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Capt Bob, as a marine insurer I am often asked why we will not accept the USCG COI in lieu of a marine survey. I have not been able to find the USCG inspection checklist/form on line and wonder if you can direct me to it. Also, what is your opinion on the acceptability of the COI vs an out of water survey by a competent surveyor. Presently our underwriters require the survey be performed by a SAMS or NAMS certified suveyor. Your opinion please.
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Capt Bob, as a marine insurer I am often asked why we will not accept the USCG COI in lieu of a marine survey. I have not been able to find the USCG inspection checklist/form on line and wonder if you can direct me to it. Also, what is your opinion on the acceptability of the COI vs an out of water survey by a competent surveyor. Presently our underwriters require the survey be performed by a SAMS or NAMS certified suveyor. Your opinion please.

As I understand the insurance end, the COI isn't accepted by insurance because the USCG doesn't assign $$ value to the boat; the USCG only assesses structural and equipment.
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Two good points, first I ran an 82ft schooner and never had an issue with the COI inspections. I have nothing but very happy clients I "coached thru their COIs.
The Coast Guard COI doesnt' address the current state of the vessel, hull moisture levels, etc, it only addresses the equipment carried, and periodically the hull condition, not the deterioration up to the failure point. That is where the "Surveyor" comes in for insurance purposes.

The "T Boat" inspection checklist is at http://www.uscg.mil/d9/sfoGrandHaven...t%20Inspection If it doesn't come up, go to USCG T Boat Checklist.

One of the key points is to have a good Log book, or books, one deck log and the other a Training Log. The Coasties can tell right away if you were pencil whipping your training or really doing it. Life goes down hill from their if you pencil whipped it.
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