Ethanol: It Is Time To Be Heard ! - Page 2 - The Hull Truth

Libra · 08-13-2009, 03:17 PM

Question - Does the gas that currently does NOT contain ethanol contain MTBE?

Barry raised a good question about mixing MTBE and ethanol laced fuel... At some point all of us either already have, or will. How do we get the Feds. that mandated this to pay the repair bills? That could even be called a Stimulus!!!

itwonder · 08-14-2009, 08:51 PM

Sent my letter ! Thanks Hotspot

HOTSPOT · 08-17-2009, 06:12 AM

We have sent 85 letters, only 15 more to reach 100.

The issues with this fuel will only get worse folks.

Spread the word and help keep the momentum going!!

HOTSPOT · 08-18-2009, 02:38 PM

We are at 95 letters sent right now.

Last year while battling the towing regulations, the boaters of NC sent close to 5,000 form letters through the application that was posted.

This is an important issue folks, help spread the word any way you can.

You can absolutely copy anything I post and paste it on other forums. I can't keep up with all of them!

offshore3144 · 08-24-2009, 08:47 PM

Come on folks lets get this rolling. Even if you haven't been effected it is important that your voice is heard. It just might effect you one day!! Mark

itwonder · 08-25-2009, 10:22 AM

I fully support the effort but wonder how the legislature can really help.

Are there NC statutes concerning the sale and distribution of E10 fuel vs. non-ethanol gasoline that affect a marina's ability to get non-ethanol fuel? Can you point me to them if there are? --- This is a loaded question because the best information I have is there are no laws that encumber sale or distribution of non-ethanol fuel for OFF ROAD use!

Now some great new information for OBX!!! Pirates Cove marina now has non-ethanol fuel (as of two weeks ago). When I asked Tammy why they had not been able to buy it previously, she said the fuel distributors had told them that they could not sell it. That suggests the real problem may be misunderstanding of the laws by the fuel distributors....and maybe this effort is already having some beneficial effect at correcting their erroneous perceptions!

Will labeling laws help ? States the require labeling frequently let stations get away with the label "may contain up to 10% Ethanol". That does not tell you anything, but it makes it easy on the gas station.

So what is preventing a NC marina from ordering non-ethanol fuel today if that is what they wish to sell? By Pirates cove's example, nothing. It may actually be an issue for some marinas if they have limited tankage and cannot buy a full partition in a fuel delivery truck, or they may have a shared tank that supplies both marine and highway use pumps, or they may be lazy.

My understanding is every fuel distributor has a storage tank full of non-ethanol gasoline. They have another storage tank full of ethanol. When the delivery truck is filled, it gets 90% from the gasoline storage tank and 10% (or less) from the ethanol storage tank. The two mix together in the truck. So it appears there should be no problem to get non-ethanol fuel, other than whether it can be delivered in practical volumes for a given marina. Of course, I may be missing something

So what exactly can the legislature change to address this problem in a meaningful way?

HOTSPOT · 08-25-2009, 12:23 PM

We have surpassed 100 letters sent!!

Traffic on all of the NC forums is a little slow right now, but as boat season winds down and the kids start school, traffic will pick back up and we will HAMMER this topic. We must and we WILL.

Thanks for the support and keep spreading the word!

Mcathcart · 08-30-2009, 05:18 PM

There needs to be an S.C. effort started. In the past week I've had to take my 40 hp Merc carb apart and on my my Honda pressure washer. Let this crap sit and you will have problems.

71R/T · 09-09-2009, 07:38 AM

I just have a basic question here. If engine manufacturers have a 10% maximum requirement, then how are gas companies allowed to sell anything over? If this causes damages, do the gas companies think that they are absolved from legal action?

swashbuckler · 09-09-2009, 08:01 AM

Sent my letter

HOTSPOT · 09-17-2009, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71R/T

I just have a basic question here. If engine manufacturers have a 10% maximum requirement, then how are gas companies allowed to sell anything over? If this causes damages, do the gas companies think that they are absolved from legal action?

The "mixing" happens at the time of delivery to the station. No one is monitoring what we are buying.

oakisland · 09-20-2009, 08:32 AM

Check Here:

http://www.bestofboating.com/2009/09...ll-916-09.html

google up "s1666 ethanol" and you'll find lots more.....

4/0 · 09-20-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oakisland

Check Here:

http://www.bestofboating.com/2009/09...ll-916-09.html

google up "s1666 ethanol" and you'll find lots more.....

oaklisland,
Thanks for the link, I will put a little research into it. This is a site we have up to try to help get the word out

http://www.bogueinletnc.com/ncorfc/p...950ec75743b092

Thanks,
Butch

HOTSPOT · 09-30-2009, 01:57 PM

Thanks OI!

Hard to believe head way is being made at the Fed level and not one darn thing is being done at the State level.

http://www.bestofboating.com/2009/09...ll-916-09.html

Elizabeth Reed · 10-01-2009, 01:54 PM

Sent my letter, also sent a email to our local state rep asking for their help. I also provided a link where their can read more about it. This is an issue not many people even have a clue about. Most folks never heard about it. I also posted the link on my facebook page as well.

How is this new Sentry additive I have read about been working?

boostjunkie1 · 10-07-2009, 12:47 AM

I also sent in my information and letter's........We need to get rid of this junk!

Elizabeth Reed · 10-13-2009, 10:32 AM

FYI!!

The gas station on Hwy 211 at Midway has non ethanol fuel.