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Old 05-14-2008, 10:53 AM
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Default First Towing Bill For review!!

The first bill to be sent to be introduced just came out this morning. We will be expecting 2-4 bills for introduction on the boat towing issue. These bills will be up review and then possibly whittled down to one bill. It will be interesting to see what the others will look like. Once we get the bill or bills that will be introduced we will need to get back on the letter sending campaign to get it passed. We will have another form letter ready when this happens. Please read the bills ...Mark


GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA

SESSION 2007

S D

SENATE DRS15154-MA-392 (3/26)

Short Title: Boat Towing-Holidays/Sundays.
(Public)

Sponsors:
Senator Boseman.

Referred to:

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT to INCREASE the width of boats that may be transported on the primary highway routes during the day and night with a permit and to increase the width of boats and trailers that may be transported or hauled on a primary highway route with a permit during the daylight hours only.

The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts:

SECTION 1. G.S. 20-116 is amended by adding a new subsection to read:

"(m) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, the towing of any boat or boat trailer in excess of 102 inches wide shall require a permit to be issued pursuant to the requirements of G.S. 20? 9;119. With a properly issued permit, the towing of any boat or boat trailer in excess of 102 inches wide but less than 121 inches wide may take place on any day of the week, including weekends and holidays, and may take place at night. With a properly issued permit, the towing of any boat or boat trailer in excess of 120 inches wide may take place on any day of the week, including weekends and holidays, but shall not take place at night."

SECTION 2. This act is effective when it becomes law.
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it would be nice if this or something like this would stay in this form, need the night towing.
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It would also be nice if it had some verbeage like " Guide posts, lights, reflectors, or other safety devices shall not be considered in the 102" measurement provided that the 102" requirement is not exceeded by more than 6".
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:25 AM
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It would also be nice if it had some verbeage like " Guide posts, lights, reflectors, or other safety devices shall not be considered in the 102" measurement provided that the 102" requirement is not exceeded by more than 6".
It would be even nicer if that 6" included more than just guideposts.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:54 AM
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It would be nice to see some secondary roads added.If not how can you get to or from the water.I know some marinas and ramps are on primary roads,but alot are on secondary roads.I don,t think everyone stays on a primary route.
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Im sure there will be atleast one more bill introduced. We will have to compare the verbage on the bills for review...Mark
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Thank you for your e-mail regarding boat towing issues in North
Carolina.

Yes, we are aware of the recent boat-towing issues and asked our
Research Department for their comments and direction. The State
Highway Patrol's response on this issue is also attached.

An increase in allowable widths for recreational boats and boat trailers
is expected to be introduced and considered during the current short
session.

I hope this information is helpful.

Best regards,

Representative Joe Boylan
NC House of Representatives
501 Legislative Office Building
300 N. Salisbury Street
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
Office (919) 733-5903
Cell (910) 639-2499

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Maybe Boylan's info will get us something, as all I saw in the others was asking that you can tow "with" a permit on weekends, night, etc. Thats progress, but whats needed is to simply classify the trailers as recreational and forget the permit requirement. Hopefully more to come that will eliminate the 102" as well as allow 24/7 towing.
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I like Libra's thoughts!
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:43 PM
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I'll withhold comment until I see the other drafts.

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Well, I will make one comment... if boat trailers aren't reclassed to recreational, then both we and our legislators have failed.

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Old 05-15-2008, 09:22 AM
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Second Bill from the house side...Mark



[b]HB 2150

A BILL TO BE ENTITLED

AN ACT to INCREASE the width of boats that may be transported on highway routes during the day and night with and without a permit, Change the fee for an annual permit for recreational boats and trailers, and change the penalty for permit violations.

The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts:

SECTION 1. G.S. 20-116 is amended by adding a new subsection to read:

"(m) Notwithstanding any other provision of this section, the towing of any boat or boat trailer less than 121 inches wide shall not require a permit to be issued pursuant to the requirements of G.S. 20-119. With a properly issued permit, the towing of any boat or boat trailer in excess of 120 inches wide may take place. Pursuant to the provisions of this section, towing of any boat or boat trailer may take place on any day of the week, including weekends and holidays, and may take place at night. The fee for an annual permit issued for a recreational boat or boat trailer pursuant to the provisions of G.S. 20-119(b) shall be only twenty-five dollars ($25.00)."

SECTION 2. G.S. 20-116(d)(3) reads as rewritten:

"(3) A fine of one hundred dollars ($100.00)fifty dollars ($50.00) for any other violation of the permit conditions or requirements imposed by applicable regulations."

SECTION 3. This act becomes effective July 1, 2008.[b]
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:13 AM
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Beber, did you get the attachment with the state patrol's response to Rep. Boylan? Would be interested in reading it if so.

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Stiller knows what to ask for. Would still like to see the trailer classification changed. Not to do so still gives th HP a potential loophole.
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Libra, what has McKee done to support boaters?? Have you talked with them? I'm trying to find out what the various mfgs. have done to support boaters on this. May just post what I find on here, just so boat owners know if their mfgs are doing something to help out their owners. I know Parker, Grady and Regulator have been involved and were at the Wilmington meeting. I know of one mfg. that is very much affected by this issue, but seems to have not done anything at all to help.

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Beber, did you get the attachment with the state patrol's response to Rep. Boylan? Would be interested in reading it if so.

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Its the same letter from Major Hatcher dated March 13th that has been circulation. I don't even know why Boylan's aid included it.


That second piece of legistlations looks great. 120 in wide would be enough room to tow a boat with a 9 ft beam + guide posts.
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I like the second one better than the first. Hopefully they will continue to improve.
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Libra, what has McKee done to support boaters?? Have you talked with them? I'm trying to find out what the various mfgs. have done to support boaters on this. May just post what I find on here, just so boat owners know if their mfgs are doing something to help out their owners. I know Parker, Grady and Regulator have been involved and were at the Wilmington meeting. I know of one mfg. that is very much affected by this issue, but seems to have not done anything at all to help.

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I saw the Southport and Onslow Bay guys at the Wilmington meeting as well as the ones above. Also quite a few dealers too. All of them I talked to were extremely concerned and said they were doing everything they could to help us boaters out.

The second bill looks a little better with the night time provision. I am sure one will come around with most/ all of what we have asked for...hopefully if keep calling our legislators!?!?!
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ALB is right . We need to keep this on our legislators minds until we get a bill passed that addresses the problems at hand. I know that JB and others have spent countless hours on this but everyone needs to take the time to continue this battle. This should be a concern for anyone that tows or owns a boat. Lets keep this moving foward.....Mark
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I really don't know how involved McKee has been in this so far. I do know that they are concerned but didn't ask them how active they were in getting the laws changed.
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