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Old 03-27-2008, 07:29 AM
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I checked with the permit office in both states and the law is the same as NC with one exception. If you are over 102 inches and have a legal towing permit, you are allowed 30 before sunrise and 30 minutes after sunset.

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I have sure been wrong before, but I honestly believe that 98% of us pulling our boats are MUCH more safe than most others out there whether they are towing are not.
If we are leaving, I walk around at least two times, tire's,tie downs, lights,hitch,empty cooler in the boat things that could blow out, then the truck, when I stop to get fuel on the road I do it again. I just do not see us as this " menace" that we are supposed to be to everyone else on the roads and I know that I am a favorite of my insurance man.sorry guess I'm just rambling here, this won'tdo us anygood anyway.but thanks for listening.
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Hey butch I think we all feel like a target. Here is what chaps me the most.
Two out of the four boats I have bought have been bought though NC dealers. No one has ever mentioned anything about the wideload permit requirement and what goes along with it. Out of the four boats and trailers I have registered with the DMV and NC Wildlife I have never been told about the wide load permit. And even when I have asked could not get a consistant answer. Now I pay taxes on the trailer the boat the fuel. I have to buy the insurance for both. I spend tousands of dollars a year going places in NC and purchase thouands of dollars of equipment and accessories. I live two and a half hours away from the coast and now I am being told that I cannot leave my house to go to the coast for a day trip to use my boat !!!! I do not make a living doing this it is recreation for me. These laws are very antiquated and need to be changed. There is no way it is safer to pull a boat at 7-10 am than it is at 3-7am. I can guarentee that the HP will be sitting close to the larger ramps in the state just waiting to pull boaters over we are easy targets and they know this.....Mark
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Not sure about the weight but it is likely the same as NC. Just trying to clear up some bad information.

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Given the size of your rig, I cant say that I've ever heard of anyone in SC catching any flack a all unless they didn't have working lights or proper load binding, assuming it is hooked to a vehicle capable of towing it.
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Given the size of your rig, I cant say that I've ever heard of anyone in SC catching any flack a all unless they didn't have working lights or proper load binding, assuming it is hooked to a vehicle capable of towing it.
Trey,

I have never heard of any issues in SC either, but you can bet it is coming. Just a matter of time. When the word gets out about NC, SC will soon follow. The HP is charged with enforcing the laws on the books. I don't think they ever really thought about it in NC until the past year. I still don't know what got this all started. Big SKA tournaments and a few people complaining???

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a 10' wide load left my business yesterday heading for California. The permits to get him to Arkansas were faxed to my office. Everyone of them limited the driver to sunrise / sunset. The rest of the world lives by the rules so why shouldn't boaters? Look on the bright side. Now the boat companies can come out with a new "legal in all states" line of 102" wide boats.
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And why is it safer to tow during the day when most of the traffic is out on the roads?

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Maybe the point of the law was not the safety or convenience of the tiny percentage of vehicles towing a ten foot wide boat or trailer. Maybe it was for the safety of the 99.99% of vehicles who might meet these loads on a dark two lane road. If you have ever driven through the glare of an oncoming truck's headlights on a narrow country road, and suddenly found yourself 10 feet away from the corner of a mobile home being illegally towed after dark, then you might see some sense in this law. I have had that experience, so I feel that the load should at least match the road. That is, be restricted to roads with a minimum lane width, or multi lane roads, or divided roadways after dark.

I am curious if these laws apply on the federal highways and the Interstate highways?
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Glacier, agreed. But I also don't think it's fair to have a blanket law that prohibits me from towing a 9' wide boat/trailer down a divided highway at night. My point is I feel certain it is safer for me to do that at night than during 5pm rush hour traffic. It's often the person who pulls out in front too closely of you that causes the problem. I'd much rather tow when the traffic is light (at night during summer hours) than during the day when everyone is back and forth to work.

There are two seperate issues here. Towing at night is one. The other is towing on narrow roads vs interstates/divided highways/wide lane roads. I'm in favor of towing at night. But will say I still need to get data to see if there is any difference in accident statistics day vs night. I don't think anyone would be against restrictions on pulling at night on narrow lane roads, as noone wants the situation you describe. I wouldn't pull my boat down 101 Havelock to Beaufort anytime, day or night. Heck, I don't even want to drive without boat/trailer on that road at night! But there's no reason at all (other than the law!) I should not be able to pull my boat down 70 from Havelock to Morehead at night. And I think it's definitely safer to do so at night.

The problem to me seems to be that there is no differentation in narrow road towing vs wide lane towing (well, there is, but not alot). And if they do try to do so, it starts getting overly complicated for the average guy to figure out. But I think I'd rather have some complication than just a blanket law saying I can't tow at night. I believe the state classifies roads as interstate, US routes, NC routes, and secondary roads (the ones with the green signs with 4 numbers). Obviously the interstate and US routes should be wide enough for towing at any time of the day, with a reasonable size limitation (120"?) without a permit requirement. But that's only a very limited number of roads. Would be nice if the NC routes had a minimum standard lane width, but they do not. Lot of old roads in NC that are NC routes (which typically just means they corss county lines). I'm drawing a blank on any reasonable way to determine which roads would be OK vs which would not. Any suggestions?? Guess we could just say it has to be XX' lane width, then get out and measure the road lane width for the road we normally have to travel with the boat/trlr. Or call DMV for the lane width of those roads. But that all sounds pretty ridiculous. Wonder if Garmin can add lane width data to their Nuvis??!

Wow. Sorry for the LONG post.

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Its not uncommon for lawmakers to write exemption for legitimate concerns that will have legitimate economic impact on the state or undue hardship on the affected group.
It is about impossible to fish offshore and not leave or return in the dark. We have all discussed the reasons, not only the early bite but the cost of gas.

I can understand a wide load trailer coming down the road in the dark; but that is more severe and does not have to move in the dark to make it an viable impact on the industry or a reasonable exemption request from the law.
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One thing I did come across this past year was when I purchased my Dodge 1500 and went to transfer the tag from my Suburban I was required to get a "P" tag for the truck.

The clerk at the SCDMV asked me if I towed anything and how much my boat weighed and then told me I had to have a tag that was rated up to 10K( I think that was the weight) even though my
boat only weighs somewhere around 4K loaded I guess.

I asked her why I did not have to have one for my Suburban and she said they did not require the "P" tags for the Suburbans .

Last time I had a truck tag was when I had and 86 F 350

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