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Old 02-12-2009, 02:47 PM
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Hi-- I'm a new member looking for a good boat-- a 18 to 20 ft used single engine cat-- prokat, seacat, caracal, even a twin vee, but it would have to be a good deal. Prokat and twin vee are out of business but dealers with them are still asking original list prices. Seems to me buying one of these is like buying used with a new motor--if you have a problem with the hull, who do you go to?

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Steve,

I have a nice 2003 ProSports ProKat CC with a Suzuki 140 4-stroke motor and a custom, dual axle Magic Loader trailer with brakes. I am looking to get into a cuddy cabin or walkaround boat since my wife and I now have a young daughter. I was looking to trade with someone, but of course I would consider selling as well. For more information and pictures of my boat go to:

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P.M. for triguy-- thanks for replying--but you're too high-- I talked to Gavin last week
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:11 AM
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With the way the boat market is, I think any long term warranty is a crap shoot. I'm sure you could find a really good deal on used 20 Prokat or twinvee. I'd have a used one of those, instead of a new one. That way you know if it has any issues going into it, use a good surveyor.
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the business--thanks for the advice--I've never used a surveyor--can you give me a rough idea of prices?

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IMO..Caracal is at the top of the list...
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the business--thanks for the advice--I've never used a surveyor--can you give me a rough idea of prices?

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That size boat ~$350
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What do they actually do?
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Basically....test/evaluate all systems, inspect everything, moisture readings, knock tests, etc. as applicable. Kinda like a home inspection for a boat. The one and only I hired rode with a driver for the test, but would not drive. I found him here http://marinesurveyors.org/

If it's an older boat as mine is, I couldn't find insurance without it.
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If you ant a cheaply priced little cat then I have an Aquasport 16' with a 90 johnson with a large Tunni removable top that you can buy cheap
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iman1120--I sent you a pm days ago--did you get it?

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catfoiler I am not familar with Aquasport cats at all. Didn't know they made one. Send me any info you have please

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I sent you some pics of a different boat that I saw for sale It is night here so if are interested I can get actual pics
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Sorry, I'm not sure what the cost would be, but I would recommend using one even on a newer boat. What's your budget? My caracal is for sale, but it sounds like it's out of your price range. You might be able to find an older wood model or a Catacraft. Which was the original Caracal.
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Steve,

Sorry for the delay in responding. I was out of town for my dad's birthday. Anyway, I sent you a PM.
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http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...ts=15#M2436236

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Fastest that I can get my Caracal is 34mph in ideal conditions. Any ideas what you're doing that gets you 20% more speed?
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140 Suzuki with Jackplate. Four bladed prop. Permatrim. Waxed hull. 3 gallons of fuel. No water in the livewell. No ice. One person on board. Bimini top down. No gear on board. Running with the current. Wind at my back...hell, I don't know.

If you re-read what I said was "it should do 40" I have never run any of my boats WOT. I have run this one 36 mph. Alan told me it would hit 40 and I believe him. I am happy to cruise at around 30.

Having had other cats I find the Caracal to be more of a semi-displacement hull than a true planing hull. Not the fastest cat hull in that size but a great riding hull.
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That's my exact setup. All of the variables are the same except permatrim. I've redlined mine for short bursts to see what it could do. I trust Gavin and Alan, but I just don't see how it would be possible to hit 40mph in the liner model. Now, the unlined model is about 500lbs lighter and 30% less weight than the lined model.

Remember, until this year they thought that the liner model and the rolled model were the same weight. I could see a boat that weighs 30% less going 17% faster.
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