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Old 06-22-2006, 09:13 AM
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So, where do do hang the OBs or put rod holders in these things?

Just a few of the 260 something boats which completed the 100th Newport to Bermuda yacht race in the past couple of days. Some of these are so efficient they are able to actually sail FASTER than the wind they are in. Human comforts are spartan on some.

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Cool ~ Those are some amazing lookin' vessels. Would LOVE to sail on one just to say "I did it!"

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Doug;

Thanks for your pics. You always seem to show interesting vessels. Appreciate it.

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us fisherman around Annapolis call them "the enemy"
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Maximus is definately a purposeful yacht. You can tell when a boat is designed to have the water run over/off the decks that it is not a bay racer. I imagine a few pipe berths and a minimal galley.

Beatiful vessels.
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Great pics Doug. How long have you been manning the finish line? I am a veteran of 3 Bermuda races (1990, 92, 94).

The second pic - I am VERY surprised by the radar - an open array is rare and considered a big no no in the sailing world.
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A few more of the racers.

I wonder if these owners were offered at a discount since the boats didn't come with transoms...


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A few more of the racers.

I wonder if these owners were offered at a discount since the boats didn't come with transoms...

I think the heavy 4 strokes broke the transom and all was lost 1/2 way to Bermuda
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OK Squiddly, here is some cheese to go with your whine.


RI Builder, I've been helping with the communications on the finish line for the Newport & Marion races since about 1982, ever since the RBYC & RHADC asked the ham radio club to help out. We must have better ears for less than perfectly clear radio traffic.
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I will give it a crack:

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Farr 68 ( Ceramaco was Sir Peter Blakes 81-82 whitbread boat at least that boat looks like it and has the same name)



RI Builder- you surprise me, No open array's on Sailboats????? maybe smaller ones but I can spot 15-20 of them from my slip in Newport, a few have 2 open arays one array on each of the second spreaders of their mizzen mast. Most have them set up like the Swan above with Hyd actuators or a lenco elect. actuator to keep them level. I remember Boomerang had one and instead of Stating "Furuno" on the antenna is was replaced with "Boomerang" this was 15 or so years ago and now it seems common to rebadge your RADAR.

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Trayder:

Maybe the theory has changed, but the old school of thinking used to be that Open Arryas were nothing more than a waiting line trap. As you probbaly know, in competitive sailing, lines seem to go everywhere. They were considered "acceptable" mounted up by the spreaders, but pole mounts (for open arrays) like the one shown were never in favor amongst most.

I think your list is correct, excpet for the second one - I do not think it is a Swan, but rather an X.
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us fisherman around Annapolis call them "the enemy"

they are real quiet and can sneak up on yeah to, one second your fishing the other your watching a sail boater go right over your lines
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RI Builder-

I understand and agree most of the open arrays are on cruisers or cruiser racers like the Swan 70 in the second picture. Niel Jepperson X-yacht? I do not think so as she has the opening transom
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A couple views of the Newport Bermuda finish line taken yesterday evening. Look real careful to pick out one of the line bouys. Do not turn shoreward after finishing. Breaking reefs are only a couple hundred yards inside of the mark. You can't see them at night, but you can hear them.

It was real quiet last night. Most boats had finished. However at one point during the 0000hrs to 0400hrs watch Wed AM we had 38 boats in sight between the line & horizon.

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...like the Swan 70 in the second picture. Niel Jepperson X-yacht? I do not think so as she has the opening transom
You are correct. Have you done the race before? Each year I vowed never to do it again, but did, and will again if the opportunity arises.
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OK Squiddly, here is some cheese to go with your whine.


RI Builder, I've been helping with the communications on the finish line for the Newport & Marion races since about 1982, ever since the RBYC & RHADC asked the ham radio club to help out. We must have better ears for less than perfectly clear radio traffic.
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Doug, that's just terrific. I'm posting from Auckland, New Zealand, so there is some pride in the photos you show. I did the Newport-Bermuda race in 1982 and apart from the boats looking more modern, the scenes you showed are much the same as the ones I have in my own album from years ago.

Loved the photo of Ceramco NZ, particularly poignant because I was wondering just last week what happened to the boat. It was indeed the Whitbread Round the World Race entrant of Peter Blake in 81/82 as trayder says. The campaign was a source of great national pride in our small country, a terrific Farr designed 68 footer built in alloy. New Zealand has gone on to achieve may great things in sailing, but it's fair to say that Ceramco was one of the first campaigns which gave this small nation the confidence to push the envelope.

Greg Elliott, the designer of Maximus, is a good friend of mine and a very talented yacht designer... with unique ideas about things (so much of yacht design is art..)

Once again, thanks for the photos - I always enjoy your photo posts.
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RI- Builder- No, never any long dist races only around the bouys, SORC, Key West, and various one designs around the globe (sounds more glamourous than in reality as I was in college and had more time and was part of a crew backed by a weathy yacht club) I was on board a N/M 68 that broke the Ft. Laud to Key West record back in 1994, surfing down waves at 22 kts on a 68 ft sailboat next to the reef line at night was one of the biggest thrills of my life, as I was at the top of the mast fixing a spin Halyard......The next year we ran into the reef and I think the owner was fined in the tens of thousands. After College I never got on a sailboat again not enough time for the sport or the egos.

Berndernz- I did a triple take when I saw Ceramaco on the transom as I have only seen her in the books about the Whitbread and Sir Peter Blake, Great man, boat and Country you have.

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Swan, Farr, custom, Swan. Raced J's and Schock 40's for years, we laughed at the Swan guys, but then they laughed at us... Better be careful with the runningbacks and spin sheet on that radar. That open array radar on the swan was a sought after look in the 80's, very impracticle and the array didn't like all that spray back there.
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