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Old 06-19-2006, 11:01 AM
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:51 PM
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You had me all confused because some of those pics were taken in Scitute Harbor.
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All I can say for the 5th pic is unbelieveable!??...and not in a good way.

Great pics, we'll be up there in August/Sept for two weeks...hoping the bluefin are up that way when we are.
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What so bad about the 5th pic?
The 5th pic is a Caledon.
I believe it is from Fairhaven but spends a lot of time in Cuttyhunk on a floating dock against the north side of the pond.
Maybe there is more then one Caledon in this area?
Very pretty inside with lots of teak. The fuel tanks are rather small if I'm not mistaken .

The last picture looks like a Tripp Angler?
Probably not a Tripp Angler though as there are many boats with that style.
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Old 06-21-2006, 01:16 PM
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That's 5th picture is rather strange to say the least. Not something you see everyday. Downeaster with twin outboards. Would mind getting the #'s on that thing.
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Last one is a Fortier 26, not a Tripp. (I think...) Don't usually see them with no top.
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What so bad about the 5th pic?

The fuel tanks are rather small if I'm not mistaken .
IMHO, outboards really kill the lines of the downeast style boats. I'm not against outboards but what's the point on that boat??? I u/s on the smaller boats but outboards just seems silly to me at that size. What could you possibly gain (that has any relevence to the intended functionality of the boat) over a single diesel. And I ask that question in all seriousness because I don't really follow the logic at all. Small gas tanks mated to twin O/B's seems counter to the long range ability that most cruising manufacturers tout and customers want.
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What so bad about the 5th pic?

The fuel tanks are rather small if I'm not mistaken .
IMHO, outboards really kill the lines of the downeast style boats. I'm not against outboards but what's the point on that boat??? I u/s on the smaller boats but outboards just seems silly to me at that size. What could you possibly gain (that has any relevence to the intended functionality of the boat) over a single diesel. And I ask that question in all seriousness because I don't really follow the logic at all.
As far as how the boat looks is a matter of preference.
The Caledon is available in a 25' or a 27' boat and it is not a 31' boat.
As far as gaining something with outboards? How about not having to deal with shaft seals,exhaust manifolds, risers, heat exchangers, draft issues,etc.
Keep in mind this boat is not made to run out for offshore trips but for coastal cruising.
The functionality of the boat is the hull design which provides a nice sea keeping ability ( as with most semi displacement hulls) with great fuel economy.
Lets just say this the downeast answer to the 27' bubble boat cruiser.
I agree with the use of a single diesel on a 30'+ Duffy/Wesmac for offshore use but for coastal cruising this type of boat has a lot to offer esp if you are considering trailering to other areas etc.
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I love that dog!!
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What so bad about the 5th pic?

The fuel tanks are rather small if I'm not mistaken .
IMHO, outboards really kill the lines of the downeast style boats. I'm not against outboards but what's the point on that boat??? I u/s on the smaller boats but outboards just seems silly to me at that size. What could you possibly gain (that has any relevence to the intended functionality of the boat) over a single diesel. And I ask that question in all seriousness because I don't really follow the logic at all.
As far as how the boat looks is a matter of preference.
The Caledon is available in a 25' or a 27' boat and it is not a 31' boat.
As far as gaining something with outboards? How about not having to deal with shaft seals,exhaust manifolds, risers, heat exchangers, draft issues,etc.
Keep in mind this boat is not made to run out for offshore trips but for coastal cruising.
The functionality of the boat is the hull design which provides a nice sea keeping ability ( as with most semi displacement hulls) with great fuel economy.
Lets just say this the downeast answer to the 27' bubble boat cruiser.
I agree with the use of a single diesel on a 30'+ Duffy/Wesmac for offshore use but for coastal cruising this type of boat has a lot to offer esp if you are considering trailering to other areas etc.
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I love that dog!!
Ok, fair enough. I would have thought that was at least a 30' boat for sure but if it's trailerable with the outboards, maybe that makes sense for some. As far as the sea keeping abilities go, that heavy hunk a' diesel in the bilge (low and balanced center of gravity) and a big ol' keel, in addition to the hull shape itself, are why downeasters handle so well, so I have to imagine the Caledon loses some of the ride quality.

Where do they build 'em?

Thanks on the dog, he is quite the river rat this summer...and lovin' every minute of it.
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I can't defend the ride quality of the Caledon but rather the idea of the semi displacement hull with outboards.
I believe the Caledon is built in Canada ( Toronto?).
I agree that the ride quality is greatly improved with the full keel and lower center of gravity but you can still benefit from the hull design even with outboard power. Our boat is outboard powered with a semi displacement hull and most people are very surprised on how soft the ride is on our boat. One draw back to our boat is it is very wet and like I said earlier this type of boat is not made to go flying off 5' waves. From my own experience I would rather have a semi displacement hull (outboard powered or full I/B) then a planing hull in our choppy conditions around here. Of course it is much slower ride but when I have been on any planing hull boat (of this size 25') on Buzzards Bay you still have to use your trim tabs and slow down to get an acceptable ride regardless of the ability to go fast.


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Old 06-22-2006, 08:45 AM
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Barry - when were you in Nonquitt? We took the Katy Wren and family out last night @ 5 for a little picnic-had the place to ourselves and caught a noce flattie to boot!
Oh the last boat is a Fortier 26 - very nice looking topless.
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The 5th pics from Scitute Harbor as Ethan noticed.....
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We left around 3:00 PM. The wind was a little cool.We got tired of the wind so we headed back to our slip and it was nice and warm inside the harbor.
We grilled tied to the dock. We had planned on having supper anchored at Nonquitt. I made my own world famous sirlion tips also known as Johnnie Crack-a-Mango style sirlion tips. We did go for a swim. The water is always the warm there? The reading I was getting was about 67.8 degrees. Thats not bad for around here at this time of the year.
We saw a boat similar to the Katy Wren. I was wondering if it was you so I took out the binoculars for a closer look and there was no one at the upper helm station. Is there another Cape Dory or Nauset in South Dartmouth?


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Barry,
There is another Cape Dory 33 in Padanaram Harbor - she's the Gosnold's Joy owned by a local retired gentlman and his wife. Its got an upper and lower station with no flybridge enclosure so it may have been him. Keep your eyes peeled for a Cape Dory flybrideg 28 that someone has just restored. New windows, awlgripped the entire hull, salon and flybridge. She's called NEO and is absolutely stunning for a 17 year old boat.
The wind in Nonquitt layed down by the time we arrived last night so it turned out to be very comfortable. Watched the sail boat racing for a couple hours and made the 8:00 bridge back in. Water indeed was about 67 degrees but we didnt get in for a swim.
Have family vivisting for the weekend and hope to get out to Menemsha or CHunk if the weather cooperates-doesnt look good.......................................
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