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Old 11-14-2009, 06:59 PM
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very cool. thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:31 PM
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I built one a couple of years ago following Uncle John's plans. Mine is 15.5 feet. Too long of one person and too small for two men. Works great with the dog and a grandchild or two as passengers. http://www.unclejohns.com/boat/
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CB Haws,a pirogue is a boat that one has to learn to use at a young age.LOL Hell,you can flip it very easy. That is why we use them in skinny waters.


Now,there is another way to make the bowstem. In fact,I know of 2 other ways. I will be building 2 other pirogues and I will show the other ways of making the bowstems.

Now,only if work would just get me a break! Duckhunting opens next weekend and of course I'm working!
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Old 11-15-2009, 08:51 AM
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Paul,
Looks good. I don't see a single mosquito in the pics. How did that happen?
I was wondering, did you ever consider using a piece of chair rail for the rub rail? That way it would go over the top of the edge of the plywood and not leave an edge exposed.
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Nice looking job and thanks for going to the trouble to document your build with the photos and explanation. What do you finish the boat with. I read on another site that water base semi-gloss latex is very durable?
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:24 PM
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Paul,
Looks good. I don't see a single mosquito in the pics. How did that happen?
I was wondering, did you ever consider using a piece of chair rail for the rub rail? That way it would go over the top of the edge of the plywood and not leave an edge exposed.
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I tryed chairrail in the pass in had to change it out. Just not enough meat to it.

Painting,first will be a coat of kults primer and then a very good boat paint. No spraying,you have to work the oil base paint in.


One thing I did leave out was that all along the bottom,I had hand rubbed wood putty to fill in any cracks in the plywood.
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:33 AM
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Got a chance to throw on some primer and hope I can start the next 2 today.




Once I finished that,I had some time to cut out a few bowstems for the next 2. The "new" bowstems are different then the first pirogue. They are made out of 2"x4"s. So what I did was cut a 8' into 4' that way it was easyer to handle.

First cut was at 17.5 angle with the table saw blade set at 1.5" deep. I had set the fence to were the blades cut was just at the outside edge of the 2x4 standing up. Passing it thru one side then the other.

Next cut was that 17.5 andle,flipping the 2x4 over,resetting the fence to were the cut hit center of the 2x4. (NOTE* keep the scraps,you will need them to block when cutting these angles and others.)

After that,at center were the 2 angles are set mid way of the 2x4 laying on the side,I had reset the height of the blade to were it would cut the 2 angles to the center of the first cut as you can see in the picture. Reset your blade till you get the right depth. As you can see at thye end of this,it shows extra cut,but that is just at the very end. The finish cut was clean flush once I had set the cut right.

This is what you should have.


As they say,there are always other ways to skin a cat. I will try to show a one other way for those that don't have a table saw in the future that has a round bowstem when I find some time.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:38 AM
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Sorry for the two week delay....forgot my cam when I went down to my Dad's last week. Took these yesterday evening....forgive the dirt, these are swamp workhorses, been stored in the shed for a couple months while not being used.

Two boats here:
-The one with the fish box in the center is 30 years old...it was built when I was 15 years old. The dimensions of the actual plywood used, I do not know...only an idea.
-The other is only about 15 years old...no internal supports, my Dad put "all thread" through the gunnels for support rather than wood...he likes a totally open boat.
-Several of these have been built over the years, mostly for friends or family.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:48 AM
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I like the All Thread. LOL What ever it takes.

I did start a 1 man yesterday. Got all the way to the point of putting the bottom on. I did take a couple pictures,but didn't have time to up load them.

Duck season open today. Its rainning and I'm at work. SH+T!
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:00 AM
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Got a chance to up load a couple pictures. This is a 1 man pirogue that will be about 12' long,with a 25" bottom and 32" at the gunnel.Sides are 10 1/2". I hope to finish it today before I have to go into work tonight. All thats left is to install the bottom,seat and rubrail. The bottom rake from center is about 1" lift at the bowstems.



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Old 11-25-2009, 05:53 AM
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Thanks for this thread. You have done a very fine job.
I really enjoy my little boat, but we use it on big waters, Barnegat Bay. The bay really get rough on the weekends, boat traffic. My plan is to build a fleet. I have ten grandchildren. Right now I have two boats so I need a couple more. These things are easy to build and handle pretty well. I am going to make a 12 footer and see how it turns out. I painted mine with the Kills primer and then regular high quality exterior latex. One boat is going on three and sits out side 24/7. Oh is was built with 1/4 inch ply. I was really lazy and bought a set of stems and bows from Uncle John's and then used them for the patterns.
Prockvoan maybe you should do the same. I bet guys would buy them.
Thanks again
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Old 11-26-2009, 11:51 PM
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CB,I will be starting another. It will be a 2 man with somewhat of a round bowstem. Making those stems,I will be using an ax,plane and sander. Also,I will be building it a bit longer then the norm for me. It will be 15'6"x26 bottom x33 at the rails. This boat will really hold 3 people or 2 men and a dog,deks and gear. That is what the man wants,that is what the man gets.

I did finish the one man. I will get some pictures loaded up this weekend and hope to have both of those finish painted. I will be sending them on there way.

Those bowstems I used in the second build is really not that hard to cut on a tablesaw. They do take some time though. If anybody needs some,I will be more then willing to cut some out and mail them.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:34 PM
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Got a chance to finish the second pirogue yesterday. These pictures were before finishing the second. All that was needed was a bit of sanding on it. At the same time,I was able to get a second coat of paint on the first one. So here is a couple pictures. I will finish painting the second one today if the weather holds out.I was able to get a coat of primer on it. You will notice that in the 1 man,thw front seat is only 6" wide. This pirogue will hold 2 men if need be. Also,the reason for the front seat is to give a bit of strengh to the sides. I was just going to put some ribs in up front,but one never knows if a second seat might be needed. Another thing is with that seat,you have a place to lay your gun off the bottom.

I will be building a false bottom that goes inbetween the seats. Its just ripped up treated 1x4's and 2x4's that rest on the bottom ribs. It will be removeable so one can wash the boat.

The second one







First and second pirogues. Of course Missy under foot as the norm.





I should be starting another sometime next week if I get a break from work.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:27 AM
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Very cool....good to see you back around.
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I did finish the one man. I will get some pictures loaded up this weekend and hope to have both of those finish painted. I will be sending them on there way.
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Thanks for documenting your build! I found this thread when I was looking to do the same thing... What is the final cost of materials?
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Thanks for documenting your build! I found this thread when I was looking to do the same thing... What is the final cost of materials?

Around $140-$145 without painting. Now that all depends were you live I guess.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:34 AM
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Gave the twoman pirogue as a Christmas gift to my son-n-law along with a PFD and a paddle. Told him as he was openning the paddle that now he is up sh-ts creek with a paddle.

Anyway,he splashed it in my pond.





And he was vry happy with it.

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hello, awesome build. I live in biloxi, ms and often go to the barrier islands and need something like this to get into inlets, small bays, tide pools etc to get to the redfish. i have a few questions for you. Have you weighed your 1-man or 2-man pirogues yet? im wondering how much they way as i am wanting to build the lightest 1-man pirogue i can, but still carry say a small cooler or bait bucket with me. Also, im a little confused on the cuts you maide on the side pieces. I see where you went 3" down on the bottom of the sides to add rocker, but did you also go 3" down on the top cut to match the contour of the bottom.Do the side pieces look like |) or )) if turned on end when cut out. Basically is there two curved cuts goin from bow to stern or only one curved cut along the bottom? Thank you much and i do plan on building one of these before the spring.

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Old 01-15-2010, 03:05 AM
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hello, awesome build. I live in biloxi, ms and often go to the barrier islands and need something like this to get into inlets, small bays, tide pools etc to get to the redfish. i have a few questions for you. Have you weighed your 1-man or 2-man pirogues yet? im wondering how much they way as i am wanting to build the lightest 1-man pirogue i can, but still carry say a small cooler or bait bucket with me. Also, im a little confused on the cuts you maide on the side pieces. I see where you went 3" down on the bottom of the sides to add rocker, but did you also go 3" down on the top cut to match the contour of the bottom.Do the side pieces look like |) or )) if turned on end when cut out. Basically is there two curved cuts goin from bow to stern or only one curved cut along the bottom? Thank you much and i do plan on building one of these before the spring.

The top of the sides are the stright edge of the plywood (outside edge). The cut is I(. That is were you get the flair in lift/rake in the bottom.

I never weight one,but 1 man can pick up a 2 man one up very easy by themselfs. Well under 75 lbs. PM me and I will send you my phone number for you to call to answer any questions that you might have.
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