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Old 07-28-2008, 07:12 AM
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For those who don't know me my name is Richard. I figured I would go ahead and start a thread on my project boat. I grew up fishing a 233 with my father and I still have that 233 which I was planning on redoing. I bought this boat sight unseen for parts for my other fomula. I was told it did not run and the engine would have to be overhauled as it had been sitting for 4 years and been used about 5 time in the last 15 years. So I figured it was scrap but it had an Al. trailer and top. When I got the boat I found that it was in better shape than my 233 so it is now my project boat. I along with my trusty sidekick Jenny plan on:

repainting
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replacing some odds and ends

The sringers are rock solid and I have already been out with it about 30 miles with no problems. For those who are formula fans such as myself this boat is not the typical 233. It is a sports convertible model. I have talked with formula and they have no info on this boat, they did send me a copy of the orginal boat specs (like would be on the window) for the fisherman model, which most of us no so well. Anyhow I am not sure if it is a rare thing and really don't care, but I do find it interesting. Our plan is to use and enjoy. My next post will have more pics and less words. Here are a couple of ad's for the 233's that I was able to scrounge up for those interestes. The 66 ad is the only ad that I could find where this model is shown or mentioned.



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I am also reworking one of these fine boats. I purchased a 1972 Formula 233 from an old salt last year. $1k bought this boat on a nice trailer and an Albemarle hardtop. The motor was siezed and I am just now coming around to getting this worked out. I know this hull, as I work for an Albemarle dealer and the 248 Express is a near exact replica of the 233. This boat had been painted with emron in the mid 80's (i believe) and looks great (after a day of compounding) I will post some pics and lets compare notes and ideas.

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Craig, sure man email me anytime. I don't know much though. One of my motors was siezed and I had it going in about 2 weeks. Sometimes it takes longer depending on the mood of the engine itself.

Here is a pic of it sitting in the last owners yard.




Pics of it in Jenny's yard





Pictures of the helm which I plan on redoing. Want to offset the steering wheel and bring the throttle controls down.



Engine box also needs to be redone. The wood core it rotting out. Plane on removing and replaceing wood and then fiberglass.











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Us working on the engines. With a lot of help from my father we had it up and running in not time.





Our first launching in the lake.







The Genral Lee outrunning the bad guy



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Our swim platform being redone. Don't really work with teak much but I think it turned out okay.










In this pic it is a little wet because it hade been raining but it is just as shinny dry.




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Keep up the hard work ..

She is worth it...

Yeppers I mean both your little lady and the 233...


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Thanks John

Here is my trailer light set up that I came up with. It is a piece of galvanized pipe, with a notch cut out so that when it goes into the rod holder it locks in. I did this because I have more than one boat and this allows me to keep only one set of trailer lights working. Plus they are never submersed in the water.





Here are a couple of pics of us enjoying the boat.









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how does she run with twin 4 bangers in it? can't go wrong with a 233, nice boat. Mine's a 72'
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Nice to see an old one coming along. Great boats, and looks like your already getting tons of enjoyment out of it. Congrats!
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Brian82, it runs pretty god with the 4cyls. I am not sure what burn #'s are right know but I estimating about 1.5-2.0mpg. Top end will be between 40 and 50mph. I haven't had it at WOT yet, but had it in the 40's and it was close to WOT. These fwc engines are good but a little wider meaning less space on the sides, but it will be okay for now. I plan on running these until they die and then maybe putting a backet on the back with 4-strokes. My other formula has the smaller 120 4cyl (2.5L) and it is like grandma driving on sunday, but they always got us back in. Those 2 running at 3000 rpm had a cruise of about 20knts and all day fishing 60miles out would be around 80 gallons. I am thinking I will repower it with the 3.0's L once I am finished with this one. But we will see how this one goes first.

Kitebuz, thanks we have really enjoyed it, really like your center console. Wanted one but the my girlfriend likes having the cabin so I figured it would be better to have her behind everything.


Here is a pic of it now a little cleaner. I did replace the wheels and tires. The tires that were on it were DICO which is who makes the hubs and I believe the axle. I also think that they were bought out by Titan some time ago, I now the tires were at least 15 years old. Tires around here were about $80 a piece, $100 with galvanized wheels, or $130 for tires and Al. Wheels. Easy choice for me.



We have also stripped the carpet from the cabin and currently in the process of removing the glue (freakin mess). We plan on laying fiberglass on the ceiling to make the roof of the cabin stronger so it can be walked on. Input on that will be appreciated. The cabins were made to give and you can walk on them but I just feel like it is really not sturdy enough. After everything is stripped and smoothed we are going to paint the inside, I just don't like the carpet.



Found this under some of the carpet. Looks like a one room. Must have been lonely in an abadoned boat.



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Good luck with your formula. I call these cult boats,Like 31 bert owners! My familly was a dealer in south jersey around 1965 and I have pictures of myself back then at the controls when I was a kid. I talked my father and uncle into taking it 60 miles out to the canyon way back then. I now have a 67 I bought for $50.00 a couple years ago. engine and outdrive was already removed when I got it. After a bare hull rebuild up new fuel tank almost new stringers and completely new floor. Home made fiberglass bracket on back and a old tired 250 ox66 yam on back. new hynautic steering. she does 51 mph at 5600 rpm and 30 mph at 3200rpm. I am still not finished with it? Only because I like fishing it more than working on her. I towed it to hatteras the past two years in may to fish it there! I fished stripers until christmas last winter. I love and trust my old gal.In hatteras in may the wind blew most of the week and one morning they told us that the miss hatteras took a wave over the top in the inlet and recommended all small boats stay in? My son and I slowly checked the inlet out and nosed our way out to where the CG 47 was sitting near the worst part of the breakers!!! We were up on plane and cleared thecreasing 6 to 8 ft wave with in 50 ft of CG 47 as they all watched in amazment on the 47 . once clear of inlet it was just big swells. lots of gaffer dolphin and a wahoo. I lov my 23 formula!!!!
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my girlfriend likes having the cabin so I figured it would be better to have her behind everything.
Smart man...

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The smiles on the kiddos faces make all the hard work worth it..

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So what is your method of removing all of the old glue? I have to do the same in my cabin. a bunch of old wet carpet was in there, i cut most of it out already and i am waiting until the end of the season to finish the cabin. My cabin top (bottom) has a large almost strut or reenforcement square or channel piece of fiberglass that runs across it near the hatch. my deck only moves very very little, maybe cause the different model too. i would fabricate some kind of almost fiberglass stringer in the cabin top, i would think that 2 or 3 of them would do the trick. Maybe make a rough channel or box form out of cardboard, tape it to the ceiling and glass over it? and keep adding glass until your happy. keep adding pics ill be sure to get some ideas for my 233
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Bly, your right these boats do seem to have a cult type following. As for me it was just the first saltwater boat we had. Never new the history behind them. I think my father had a 25 fiber??? Never heard of a fiber but believe it wasn't produced long, then he had a 31 Bertram, he sold them before my time and he got the formula when I was old enough. It has always been a good boat for us, I have some great stories about these old boats and our fishing trips. We use to go out on two engines and come back on one. Never could figure it out, it just wasn't getting enough gas for both engines, turned out it was a fuel line in the tank, it had small holes and was sucking air. When the tank was full it ran fine, get 60 miles out and troll all day and give it the gas to come back in and one engine would shut down. Regardless we always went out every weekend knowing we would have problems. Made a lot of memories though.

Sorry to get of track.

Like you I will fish more with it than work on it. I really don't use the cabin so stripping it down won't stop me from going out. I plan on doing most of the work this winter.

Brian82-My other model is like yours and it is the same way as this one. It isn't that it gives a lot but it does give. I don't think it was intended to walk on. I am 200lbs and I can walk across it, I just want it more solid. The original fiberglass on there is a lighter wieght cloth. I need to get a fiberglass book before I do anything, but right now I am thinking I can smooth it down apply some resin, wet out some heavy-wieght fiberglass and put it over the fiberglass that is already there. May be a bad idea though. As far as removing the glue it is a pain in the a$$. If the glue is hard then there is nothing you can put on it to remove it, so don't waste your money on an adhesive remover. I am using a heat gun and a scrapper and a type of fume hood to keep the fumes away from me. Just heat it up until it get soft and scrape it with a scrapper. The scrapper should be firm, but don't get the razor kind.

The kids smile do make it all worth it, we thought of buying a boat that was ready to go and needing no work, but then what would we do in the off-season. This is just a fun project for us. We really just like the time together working on it.
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Oh some real history as told by an original sales rep for the original company before fuqua indutries bought the company and ran it into the ground. I was told that a number of these hulls had 50 cal. machine guns mounted on deck and supprted the cubans that were trying to take back there island from castro! It apparrently had to look like a non U.S.sponsored Military invasion support boat?Back then they were manufactued on the miami river. Also the longer deck was used on the original race boats because the farther back you drove from, the more time you might spend on the water instead of in the air?That was the original go fast boat.
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Bly, thanks for that interesting bit of history. You learn something new everyday, we are planning on driving down to Florida and then to the Bahamas, I have jokingly said we should mount a .50cal to the boat just in case. Never new that it was actually used for that. This boat does ride a little better than my other formula just for the reason you have stated. My friends that have rode in it with us have all complimented on the smoothness of the boat. Looking at some of the old pics it looks like the model that Aronow and the beatles had their picture taken in. Anyhow I am trying to find the Don Arrownow movie. I have heard it was completed but haven't ran across it yet. Here is a link to it.
http://www.donaronowfilm.com/index.swf

http://www.donaronowfilm.com/photogallery.html


Also here is a little history fo those interested. I am assuming that the "Aqua Hunter" is what would become the 233, but just guessing.

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DON ARONOW HISTORY:
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Don Aronow arguably can be credited with the creation of the performance
powerboat genre, but he had help. Lots of it. First came a New England
designer named Ray Hunt and a 31ft wooden boat called Moppie. While
owner Richard Bertram and navigator Carlton Mitchell hung on, Sam
Griffith drove Moppie for eight hours across the Gulf Stream to win the
Miami-Nassau Race of 1960. Their average speed was only 23mph, and they
broke the existing record by only 32 minutes. But the promoters called
it the toughest ocean race in the world, and in 1960 it lived up to its
name. Bertram and his crew set their new record in 30-knot winds and
seas of 9-10 feet. Moppie was definitely something new.

Few, if any, other boats have had such a profound influence on the
design of power boats as has the Bertram 31. The first boat design to
use a Deep-V hull, it is arguably the most famous modern boat design
ever built, the 31 Bertram has achieved a near cult status, infecting
boaters around the world. Designed by Ray Hunt and built by Richard
Bertram, the 31 was in production for 25 years. Many are still on the
water and in use throughout the world.

But in that race there was another boat also destined to influence all
future performance power boat hulls. The 23ft Aqua Hunter driven by Jim
Wynne arrived in Nassau two hours and 25 minutes after Moppie. She was
another Hunt- design deep-vee, but built of fiberglass and propelled by
the new "inboard outdrives" patented by Wynne and built by Volvo Penta.

At age 33, Don Aronow moved to Florida after prospering as a real estate
developer in New Jersey. In 1962 his first raceboat was designed by Jim
Wynne. In collaboration with designers Walt Walters & Wynne, Aronow
founded the Formula Boat Company and launched the Formula 233 to win the
Miami-Nassau race. The 233 deep-V hull design earned notable victories
on the national offshore racing circuit. In 1963 he launched a 27'
Formula designed by Dick Bertram and Peter Gurke. Formula was purchased
in 1964 by an Ohio-based industrialist who also owned Thunderbird. Both
Formula and Thunderbird models were then produced in a combined
operation

The first DONZI, a 28 foot, deep-vee was designed by Jim Wynne in 1964.
He won Miami-Nassau in 1965 but sold the company in 1966.

He next founded Magnum Marine in Miami, Florida, building two hulls
specifically for the gut-busting offshore circuit. These two designs,
with which he launched Magnum Marine, were the Magnum 27’ and the Magnum
35’; both went on to become World Offshore Champions in Open Class
racing. Aronow sold Magnum Marine to Apeco in 1968.

Aronow named the Cigarettes after a boat fabled for hijacking
rum-runners in the Atlantic during Prohibition. Aronow hijacked the
name for himself and designed versions that could ultimately slice
through choppy seas at speeds over 100 miles an hour. A bona-fide
Cigarette costs from $200,000 to $1 million and can reach speeds of 120
mph

Don Aronow was gunned down at the behest of a rival boat yard owner in
1987




BERTRAM 31 HISTORY:
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Dedicated to the Bertram Thirty-Ones Around the World...

THE SALTY TALE OF A COLORFUL BEGINNING

The 1960 Miami-Nassau powerboat race was a watershed event - it marked
the birth of Bertram Yacht and the advent of the modern powerboat with
its fiberglass construction, deep-vee design, stern drives and larger
engines. It was also one hell of a bad day to be out there racing, and
it was Bertram's first competition. The seas ran 8 feet, some say 12,
and winds were steady 30 knots, gusting higher.

"What happened on that gusty April day in the Gulf Stream and on across
the clear, rough waters on the Bahama Bank would forever alter
powerboating," reported Soundings magazine (May 1994). "The race was
won by Moppie, a 30-foot wooden prototype designed by C. Raymond Hunt
for Miami yacht broker Richard Bertram and named after Bertram's wife.
With a constant 24-degree deadrise running fore and aft, Moppie ushered
in the era of the modern deep-vee hull. The Ray Hunt design turned out
to have a terrific ability in rough water, and it really set
boatbuilding on its ear."

Moppie set a course record of eight hours flat when she crossed the
finish line two hours ahead of the second-place boat. That she finished
at all was remarkable. Conditions were so poor that the aluminum chairs
used by Bertram and crew crumpled shortly after the starting signal, and
the men found themselves standing on the deck for most of the race.

The only other boat to cross the finish line that day was the one other
vee-hull. Essentially, a 24-foot version of Moppie, it was driven by
MIT engineer Jim Wynne and boating writer Bill McKeown. No one else
came in. The rest of the fleet returned to port or finished the next
day. "It changed the face of yachting forever", said Jim Martenhoff, a
pioneer in rough-and tumble South Florida ocean racing and a former
boating editor for the Miami Herald. "No other single event has had as
great an impact on powerboating as the 1960 Miami-Nassau race."
(Soundings, May 1994)

After the 1960 race, Bertram turned Moppie into a plug, a mold was cast
and the first fiberglass 31 was created. The following year Bertram
again won the Miami-Nassau race, this time in Glass Moppie, the
fiberglass version of the prototype.

Some observers say that originally, Richard Bertram had no intention of
building a company, but that the publicity surrounding the two races
sparked such interest in the new hull form that he just couldn't ignore
the opportunity. As Bertram told Martenhoff, "Jim, there were so damn
many yachtsmen waving checkbooks at me that I had to go into business."

Production of the now-legendary 31' Bertram started in a rented
warehouse in Hialeah. The same hull mold produced a number of race
boats and Bertram dominated the ocean racing circuit, while gaining
valuable knowledge of structural integrity that was applied in
construction of production Bertrams.

Before the molds were finally retired, the company built 1,860 Bertram
31's over 16 years, including 23 special-edition models. The 31 came in
four configurations. The original open Sportfisherman had a lower
steering station and no aft bulkhead. The Fly Bridge Cruiser added a
rear bulkhead. Bertram also offered the 31 as a hardtop and as an
express cruiser, the Bahia Mar.

"The 31 has become a benchmark both in terms of seakeeping ability and
rugged fiberglass construction. It has had a reputation from the start
as a boat that will take you out and bring you back." (Soundings, May
1994).

"They went to rogues and royalty, grizzled marlin captains and
fair-weather sailors. Many of them are still tearing across the
whitecaps..." for customs and border patrol work, search and rescue
missions, and, of course, to ferry anglers to offshore fishing grounds.
The Bertram 31 launched Bertram Yacht, Inc. when it was introduced at
the 1961 New York National Boat Show, essentially as a day boat for
Florida sport fishermen. More than three decades later, it is a
collectible classic, sought-after, even coveted. According to
Soundings, aficionados refer to it as "Bertram Art." The Bertram 31 has
aged well, a tribute to its impeccable blood lines and robust
construction."
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Yup, that sure is a pretty boat!!!

I haven't put near that much work in my boat but I know the feeling of satisfaction you get from making improvements.

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I Got a 1970 233 for the right price (free) and have started the build up. Glad to see there are others that see this boat as something special. I will be going the bracket and big single outboard route.

I'm about half way done with the headliner job now. I also was not happy with the squishy fore deck and want this to be solid.
Decks and Fiberglass in general get thier strength from sandwich construction. (Putting more glass up on an already mushy core might not be the fix your looking for) On my boat the Core of the deck was soaked 1/4" wood. I cut and ground out the inner layer of glass and the core. I won't sugar coat it either, this sucks. Now what remains is the thin outer layer of glass. Putting it back I will probably use 3/4" Nylacore as the core and follow that with Mat and 1808. Should be able to have a dance party on it when done. I have some pictures I'll try to post.









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always loved the 23 ft formula as friends had one and I went out on it when ever invited . they are 1 of the 2 cult boats that are worth being redone. also loved those magnums in the day ! good stories on don and rich as well
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