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Here's a few pic's of some of the ethanol cyclone's we built in our shop. Main body is 3/8" stainless steel. Approx a month to build each. 10 tons a piece, and are 12'8" from floor to top of ring. (taller if you spin it to the rectangle inlets) solid welds inside and out. Used for drying grain for an ethanol plant somewhere down south. Waiting on word to see how many more they are going to order. Potential of another 9.
Very nice looking work, would like to get in on that.
Morechaching, it cost more to make a gallon of Ethanol than to use a gallon of crude and with the barrel price dropping by 28% they are wondering if they should keep building ethanol plants. If the barrel drops below $40.00 it aint worth it.
Hydrogen is the ONLY CLEAN BURNING fuel we have , I say invest in these Co's.
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During one summer in college I worked at steel fab plant and learned how to weld the steel footing plates for a nuke plant near Raleigh....that was one of the hardest and hottest jobs I ever had.
I would rather deal with nuclear waste than rich terrorist nations.
I agree
How long does it take to build one of those???
Neat pics
how long to build a nuclear power station? the last one commissioned was comanchee peak in glen rose texas (west of dallas). from the time the 'golden shovel' broke ground to the day she was put on line--a meger 27 years. thank goodness for regulation and unions.
actually circlebarW has a pebble bed design that i understand can be making juice in a 36 month turn around. less fuel, less storage. sounds like a good alternative, for electrical power anyway.
as for ethanol, you guys keep buying it. yeehaw. my family will keep planting corn. if you're pumping into your fuel tanks, supply goes down then the price of feed corn goes up and their cattle prices go up along with it. yeehaw. its a win-win for the farmer. (but i guess its a give'n take for the consumer)
Very nice looking work, would like to get in on that.
Morechaching, it cost more to make a gallon of Ethanol than to use a gallon of crude and with the barrel price dropping by 28% they are wondering if they should keep building ethanol plants. If the barrel drops below $40.00 it aint worth it.
Hydrogen is the ONLY CLEAN BURNING fuel we have , I say invest in these Co's.
I would rather put more ground into seed than pay subsidies to keep it fallow. Profit and more production at each farm might make it cheaper to grow, and putting money into our farm economy is healthier than giving it to Bagdad.
There is also a shortage of corn in Mexico to make tortillas with too. Pass the word boys.
Jim, how long does it take to build something like that. I custom ordered a equipment trailer from Michigan and it took 6 months to make. It was a 50 ton drop deck custom built to my specs by towmaster trailers. Looks like you guys up there do some awesome metal work.
Takes about a month give or take depending on how many guys we have out in the field working. We're a bit of a specialty company and build different items and ship them all over the nation. We currently have the contract to do the Saturn plant in Oklahoma. We recently sent out a couple of plate steel stacks out there as well as a platform to go around half way up. That bad boy actually tore a 3/4" steel choker when we lifted it. Base was made from two 1" steel plates 8' diameter with 3/4" plates 18" tall spaced every six inches standing on end. From there on out we lifted it with chains. If it's made from metal, then we can fabricate it (for a price). We just shut down our TN plant that made air houses.
It's nice working for this company because everything is different. They don't care I'm trying to form my own company, because I'm not competition. I'll do different work from them. No way I can compete with a heavy industrial company. So commercial and light industrial here I come.
I'm going to see if I can get some pictures tomorrow from the Ford job back in the summer. Used a few different helicopters to lift and set the ductwork in place for that one. It's one thing trying to set and make connections with a hydraulic crane more or less a helo. That's always fun stuff.
The majority of our work is in the plant's. CNC mist collection systems, paint booths, ovens, phosphate tanks, etc.......
Is the big fan housing for ABB or something like that I worked on a projet that looked similar There is a big fan bolted to the big hole That separates in the middle for the intake side and the exhaust side Weighs about 17 ton???I have some film pics somewhere
There are alot of heavy beads on that piece for certain
Just a fun fact, South America Uses ethanol derived from their sugar cane. Apparently its far more efficient than our corn, but we don't have the right climate obviously to grow mass quantities of Sugar Cane. They are self sufficient in many of the countries down there via their ethanol.
welder - 1/28/2007 10:54 PM Very nice looking work, would like to get in on that. Morechaching, it cost more to make a gallon of Ethanol than to use a gallon of crude and with the barrel price dropping by 28% they are wondering if they should keep building ethanol plants. If the barrel drops below $40.00 it aint worth it. Hydrogen is the ONLY CLEAN BURNING fuel we have , I say invest in these Co's.
Agreed. Ran across this article today from Bloomberg. They claim that the barrel must be $70 or higher to make ethanol cost effective. It's a long read but worth it considering the subject. That along with only producing 70% of the energy per gallon compared to regular petro. Ethanol is a band-aid for problem that needs a transplant.
You are right on both accounts. Conversio n to another fuel source is a long term 20 to 50 year problem. Right now its not about the gallon of diesel it takes to make a gallon of ethanol that has 1/4 of the calories in it. Keep your eye on the big picture - we'll get there. Short term I'd rather pay farmers to grow corn than send oild money to terrorists. Mid term we'll make ethanol from other feed stocks. Then we'll switch ovet to bio diesel and diesel engines. Then we'll roll over to fuel cells, but right now technology is not there for cost effective production.
In order to make this work, we also need nuclear power plants instead of gas turbines burning natural gas. Then we'll use their energy at night, when the big units have to spin at idle anyway, and we'll use electrolisis to split the water molecule to get our hydrogen.
Reccomend you all read the book "The hydrogen Economy". It's about 10 years old and predicted all the problems we are having now. Including we will have to crack the back of big oil to do this - hydrogen production will be decentralized.
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Is the big fan housing for ABB or something like that I worked on a projet that looked similar There is a big fan bolted to the big hole That separates in the middle for the intake side and the exhaust side Weighs about 17 ton???I have some film pics somewhere
There are alot of heavy beads on that piece for certain
The way it was explained to me was (they could be wrong) a fan gets bolted to the bigger rectangular opening (closest to the end) to start the cyclone and grain gets fed into the other rectangular opening and something also gets fed into the center round opening that gets mixed in with the grain. At the very end of the cone there is another cone that gets attached. It blows out and tapers back down. The primed rectangular plate near the end of the cone is there to beat on with a hammer in the event of a clog.
Here's a few pic's of some of the ethanol cyclone's we built in our shop. Main body is 3/8" stainless steel. Approx a month to build each. 10 tons a piece, and are 12'8" from floor to top of ring. (taller if you spin it to the rectangle inlets) solid welds inside and out. Used for drying grain for an ethanol plant somewhere down south. Waiting on word to see how many more they are going to order. Potential of another 9.
What welding codes are these fabricated to?
Inspection of welds warms my heart and my wallet .
Some of what I do for a living 
