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Old 11-12-2006, 11:52 PM
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I went the to the Ft Myers Boat Show to look at the Renaissance Prowler 306. Unfortunately, I climbed aboard the Defiant first. As my wife put it, she couldn't look at any other boats without being disappointed. This was on Friday morning. Today I went back armed with a camera and a copy of Powerboat Reports from July 05. If you haven't read PBR, they don't accept advertising, so their commentary on products is unbiased. There were several items they pointed out that needed improvement in the rig that was tested. David Watton took their suggestions to the drawing board and completely redisigned the below deck layout.

The fuel tanks were moved forward and the freshwater was increased from about 16 gallons to 48. To compensate for the extra weight, there are two 24 gallon tanks aft of the 100 gallon fuel tanks. There is a Y fitting to draw from both at the same time.

There are a lot of other little things that aren't apparent in the pictures. Every bolt in the T-top is insulated from the aluminum with a nylon sleeve. Below deck is completely finished. I ran my hand back where you can't see and it was smooth. Every cup holder is drained back to the bilge.

I can't comment on the performance, but hope to make a trip to the factory in Sarasota in the next month or two. With 175 Suzukis, they are claiming 3+ mpg and a top end of 50.

There are a few things that I forgot. Helm and head would have been nice.

That's a 400 psi freshwater pressure washer under the helm seat. Nice touch.
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Old 11-13-2006, 12:43 AM
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if you can get past the outsides of it...it looks like an amazingly rigged boat!
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what does a boat like this cost
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:45 AM
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WOW! true boat porn. unfortunately im one of those losers who think cats are ugly.
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:36 AM
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As it sat, the MSRP was about $140k, but without things like the four LED underwater transom lights and headset system (7 stations) it was close to $120k. I thought I overheard another company rep saying that if there is a used boat on the market, they will buy it back and bring it up to the current standards before resale. Does anyone else do this??? They also have a cuddy version of this one in the works as well as a 30 and 35. Can't wait to see those.
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Good looking boat...nice rigging. Is it the photos or is the tunnel shallow? The accessibility to pumps and hardware looks great.
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:29 AM
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Wisely put gebby......"pure boat porn!"

Not sure about 50 top end speed with dual 175 zukes though. All the boats on their site pics have dual 250's and they claim 50+ mph with those (I assume).
Also, the site mentions a 330, a 350 and a 230 will be their new products. Can't wait to see the 330 express!!
Amazing rigs...thanks for the pics Curtis C
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:05 PM
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I'm not a cat fan,but that is the only one I would consider so far.Rigged very well.
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:29 PM
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Nice pictures and that boat probley rides like a dream.But so much for shallow water fishing
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Old 11-13-2006, 06:41 PM
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i am in the deep-v camp. But, that boat is finished VERY well.

Looks like water could come into the boat in rough water through the anchor locker? Is this a typical design with cats or particular with this brand? Not a bash, looks to be a fine vessel.
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Old 11-13-2006, 08:10 PM
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They are built here in Sarasota. That being said I've only ever seen one on the water.
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Old 11-13-2006, 10:15 PM
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Jeff, @50 mph how did you see it??
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:54 PM
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Depending on how shallow your water is I wouldn't rule it out completely, I think the draft is only 18"
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Old 11-14-2006, 02:36 PM
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Nice looking. I'm not sure I'd want my cupholders draining to the bilge. The only water I want there is water that can't find another home.
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Old 11-14-2006, 08:46 PM
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Curtis C. I agree that the rigging on the boat looks great!. Finish also looks very good. But if you read the entire Powerboat Reports article on the Defiant they said that they would have bought a Prowler 306 instead. They gave the Defiant a glowing report but said they would have bought the Prowler. I don't have the issue in front of me so I can't quote it.

That being said. I own a Prowler and love it. I have never rode on the Defiant or seen it in person. The pictures do look like it is very well done and the PBR article was flatering towards it.

I'm not here to bash it. It is certainly a quality boat. All I'm saying is that the PBR article ended up liking the Prowler.

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if you can get past the outsides of it...it looks like an amazingly rigged boat!
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:01 PM
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I don't posses the PBR report any longer but if my memory is correct the position of PBR was that the price of the Defiant was about the same as the Prowler and if given a choice between a 27' boat or a 30' boat for the same price Chris at PBR said he would choose the Prowler. I understand his position but there are circumstances here that were not explained. The Defiant was fully loaded with expensive options and as tested would be the same price as the base Prowler (which is a fine boat) but it wasn't really an apples to apples comparison. But for sure it is not the position of Defiant to ever run down any other product, it is only our desire to build the safest and best performing boat we can possibly build and will be looking at what we can do to even clean our wiring up more, and thanks for bringing to my attention the battery wing nuts, they must be nylock. All constructive criticism is always accepted and we always try implement good suggestions.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:52 PM
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Thanks for posting, David. Like I mentioned to Angela on the FS Forum, it's always great to have a manufacturer participating in a public forum about their product.

I'm looking forward to the performance numbers you get after the St Pete Show.
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David were you in Providence last winter with one of your hulls I beleive it 150 yamaha's but can't remember
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Yes I was up in RI for the NEW ENGLAND Fishing Expo and it was a good show. That is the boat that was producing 45 mph speeds and running at 35 getting 3 mpg with twin 150 Yamaha's. That would give a 500 mi. range with 20% still in the tanks. Good to hear from you Rich.
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