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Old 09-10-2006, 04:49 PM
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So, I have been doing some research....I never knew about the Carolina Classic! The 25' has some specs that jumped out at me....8500lbs dry weight and 28deg deadrise!!! Also, the entire helm station hinges forward for access to electronics and the engine is amidship.....I have never been on one and have requested a seatrial from the local CT dealers.

I am writing to request your comments on this particular boat and whether or not (used CC 25') would be something to look at......
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You could ask this question here

http://carolinaclassicboatowners.com

I'm sure that you'll get plenty of real solid information.
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:19 PM
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those 25's are built real well...very solid hull.nice lay out on them too.those "aq" series volvo drives are pretty bullet proof.i've ran into some grounding problems on them,so,look for signs of galvanic corrosion.the boat itself is a real solid,excellent sea boat....i like 'em !!!
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A friend of mines sunk in the Atlantic off of Ocean City Md. The boat was raised and found to have a manufacturing defect that involved corrosion of the bolts holding on the metal pieces on either side of the outdrive. It has been discussed on the Carolina Classic Forum. My friend was a little disapointed with Carolina Classics response as they initially tried to avoid the issue. Insurance company was the one that found the problem and absolved the owner of any responsibility. It is a great boat but if I purchased a used one those bolts are something I would want to check. I have to assume this issue has been addressed by Carolina Classic on newly manufactured boats.
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I looked hard the Carolina Classic 25. The tuck away head makes for a larger than expected cabin. The gas motors has some issues and the desiels are usually coupled to an outdrive. Fine if you like that but not for me. I believe they now produce a full inboard version.
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So explain to me then how the midship motor turns the dual prop.....is there a shaft that runs 10' or so? If so, what are the advantages, disadvantages..
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There are known issues about the 25' engines becoming hydro-locked due to an insufficient exhaust riser. Don't remember if they were gas or diesel, but I think it was gas. Might want to look into that before making a purchase decision.
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24 degree deadrise, by the way!
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Cappy, its a Duo prop. Check your PM's
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:53 PM
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If you're considering the 25 CC then the other logical boat to consider would be the the 26 Albemarle.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:30 PM
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Both the C/C and Albemarle are made in Edenton N.C. Both boats have a jackshaft from the engine to the O/D if they don't have inboards. I've seen some with O/B but I hear it is a lot of weight on the stern with the two engines needed to power one. I have a 26 Albemarle and both boats were designed by the same guy. I hear the guy left Albe to start C/C and opened his plant across the road from Albemarle. The plants are only about 1/2 mile apart. The 26 Albemarle is a bigger boat with more cabin room.
The Volvos do have a hydro lock issue (at least mine did) after getting hot, when you shut the engine down. If it locks, take the plugs out immediately and crang engine for a few seconds, put the plugs back in and start it back up. If you get the engine hot you'd better expect it to lock so hang out at the boat for a few minutes and try.
There is a fuel delivery problem as well. The engine has a stick pump that lost prime on my 1995 265 with the 330 hp 7.4L. I had to put fuel in it frequently to start the engine if it sat for more than a few days. It would also burn up if you ran it without fuel in about 30 seconds (no shet) I had my mechanics bypass the stick pump and put an electric pump after thew second stick pump.
Both boats are brutes and don’t show their metal until it gets sloppy out. When it does you’ll be glad to be in one. Both are tender due to the 24 degrees deadrise but that is why they cut the water so nicely.
I love the Albe more and more the longer I own it.
Hope I was of some help. If you have any questions or would like a ride PM me.
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The 26 Albe's hull was redesigned a few years ago, and it no longer has 24º deadrise like the 25 CC.
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I would love a ride in the 24 Albe, 25CC or 26 Albe. I live in CT however......
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Stephen,
There is albe dealer at NoankShip yard, although I found him less than cooperative when I was looking at the 28's, maybe you will have better luck than me. There is also one in RhodeIsland.
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I'm in Norfolk Va. If you make it down this way and I'm in country I'll be happy to give you a ride and might be able to get you a ride on a 24 too.
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I would plan a visit to Edenton if you're serious about owning either an Albemarle or a Classic. You can visit both in a day and see their operations. The 25 Classic with a Diesel is a machine (if you can afford it). Weight, deadrise, fit/finish and the power/torque of the diesel...TANK.

The 26 Alby is also very nice. I have spent time on the 24 degree deadrise hull and am not a big fan due to it being very tender. I hear the new design is nice and alleviates the tenderness...but get either the big gas motor or the diesel...the small block gas motor is not enough for that hull. Boat is also a tank.

I own a 1999 24 alby and love the boat...it has served me well and will go anywhere the other two will go no problem. No issues with the engines/design...

BTW - the jackshaft runs from the engine postion to the duoprop and is a pretty strong design. Mine has 1500 hours on it and going strong.

Good luck...but try to get to Edenton, you'll be glad you did.

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Wwwhat kind of cruise speed do you get out of the inboard CC25s? I have heard 27-28 knots for the new diesel, but I wonder if this is with a full load and bottom paint?
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:41 AM
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With the new 25 inboard and a D4-260 your are going to see a 24-25 knot loaded cruise. The best part about this setup is you are getting incredible efficiency . . . it is pushing 3nmpg!! In our market with our long runs 65-70 gallons of diesel to go offshore fishing for a day makes this boat very attractive. The inboard is still trailerable and the lack of outdrive maintenance for folks that wet slip their boats is also a plus.

With the Yanmar 315 you will see approx 1 knot more out of the boat at cruise.

I hope this helps.
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I spoke to our local dealer about this last year and the price difference between the 260 and the 315 almost make it a no brainer. Sure is a sweet setup. Get the bow thruster too.
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:39 PM
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The 26 Albe's hull was redesigned a few years ago, and it no longer has 24º deadrise like the 25 CC.
Correct, deadrise is now 21 degrees. A bit more stable on the drift...
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